1 00:01:08,340 --> 00:01:45,190 fifteen seconds 2 00:02:15,730 --> 00:01:51,100 [Music] 3 00:02:18,750 --> 00:02:15,740 this hope radio for the masses headliner 4 00:02:20,430 --> 00:02:18,760 between July 8 1947 5 00:02:23,130 --> 00:02:20,440 the Army Air Force was announced that 6 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:23,140 applying this - found and is now in the 7 00:02:29,940 --> 00:02:25,690 possession of the RA the game is rigged 8 00:02:32,789 --> 00:02:29,950 changed the game changer I occasionally 9 00:02:36,479 --> 00:02:32,799 think how quickly our differences 10 00:02:41,940 --> 00:02:36,489 worldwide would vanish if we were facing 11 00:02:41,950 --> 00:02:45,640 [Applause] 12 00:02:51,910 --> 00:02:48,850 two black with your host Jimmy church on 13 00:02:57,220 --> 00:02:51,920 the game-changer Radio Network and a GRA 14 00:03:06,150 --> 00:02:59,730 I need your help to get to the 15 00:03:08,220 --> 00:03:06,160 [Music] 16 00:03:11,150 --> 00:03:08,230 you're listening to fade to black with 17 00:03:19,750 --> 00:03:11,160 Jimmy judge on the game changing Network 18 00:03:22,670 --> 00:03:21,110 good evening 19 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:22,680 [Music] 20 00:03:27,730 --> 00:03:37,670 Radio 4 21 00:03:46,390 --> 00:03:40,770 how you do it 22 00:03:51,020 --> 00:03:49,100 J Tuesday on 23 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:51,030 I'm 18 24 00:03:57,890 --> 00:03:52,970 [Music] 25 00:04:00,540 --> 00:03:57,900 234 days into the new year just 131 days 26 00:04:05,110 --> 00:04:03,450 a bunker somewhere in the middle of 27 00:04:07,030 --> 00:04:05,120 beautiful 28 00:04:10,660 --> 00:04:07,040 Burbank California and I would like to 29 00:04:14,030 --> 00:04:12,050 cost again 30 00:04:17,029 --> 00:04:14,040 it states 31 00:04:19,189 --> 00:04:17,039 hither and thither - and throw back and 32 00:04:20,660 --> 00:04:19,199 forth up and down east and west north 33 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:20,670 and south 34 00:04:24,250 --> 00:04:29,570 this is paid to blind for kjc are 35 00:04:37,339 --> 00:04:32,659 GameChanger network and kg are a the 36 00:04:39,850 --> 00:04:37,349 planets I'm we hope to be Church what is 37 00:04:45,010 --> 00:04:39,860 cracking everybody how you do it 38 00:04:45,020 --> 00:04:48,340 all right tonight 39 00:04:54,130 --> 00:04:52,180 very special guest dr. Robert Schoch is 40 00:04:57,610 --> 00:04:54,140 here that's right 41 00:05:03,160 --> 00:04:57,620 the good doctor we're gonna do a 42 00:05:05,370 --> 00:05:03,170 complete update on Egypt tonight lots of 43 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:05,380 stuff to talk about he's also got a trip 44 00:05:12,670 --> 00:05:08,510 he's going back out and heading up a 45 00:05:15,700 --> 00:05:12,680 tour and 2019 I think it's July June 46 00:05:18,580 --> 00:05:15,710 July we'll find out about that tonight I 47 00:05:20,380 --> 00:05:18,590 would love to go to Egypt with dr. 48 00:05:23,110 --> 00:05:20,390 Robert Schoch do imagine what that tour 49 00:05:25,330 --> 00:05:23,120 would be like any tour with the good 50 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:25,340 doctor would be amazing but we've got 51 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:28,610 the new chamber above the Grand Gallery 52 00:05:34,450 --> 00:05:32,210 we've got the second Sphinx discovery 53 00:05:36,460 --> 00:05:34,460 and now we've got a few different 54 00:05:39,670 --> 00:05:36,470 versions of the second Sphinx right 55 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:39,680 we've got luck sir we've got Giza we're 56 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:40,910 going to be talking about all of that 57 00:05:47,830 --> 00:05:45,170 tonight we have the e/m testing that was 58 00:05:50,130 --> 00:05:47,840 done on the Great Pyramid and that white 59 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:50,140 paper that was published last month 60 00:05:54,700 --> 00:05:52,730 we're gonna go over that too as well 61 00:05:58,650 --> 00:05:54,710 there's a new museum that is opening up 62 00:06:00,940 --> 00:05:58,660 at Giza the great the grand the grand 63 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:00,950 Egyptian Museum I think that's what 64 00:06:06,990 --> 00:06:03,890 they're calling it the grand there I do 65 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:07,000 believe so and all that and much more so 66 00:06:11,740 --> 00:06:09,170 stay tuned for that that'll be at the 67 00:06:14,770 --> 00:06:11,750 bottom of the hour dr. Robert Schoch 68 00:06:17,260 --> 00:06:14,780 love it when he's on the show and do you 69 00:06:18,850 --> 00:06:17,270 remember I'm gonna ask him about this 70 00:06:23,020 --> 00:06:18,860 tonight he's probably listening right 71 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:23,030 now that'll blow it uh anyway do you 72 00:06:29,740 --> 00:06:27,290 remember back the first time that we had 73 00:06:31,450 --> 00:06:29,750 him on the show there was two things now 74 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:31,460 this is five years ago so it's going 75 00:06:38,410 --> 00:06:34,730 back aways but two things happen during 76 00:06:41,740 --> 00:06:38,420 that show one you know he had me all 77 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:41,750 nervous and I said he you know should I 78 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:47,210 call you doctor he was like yeah man 79 00:06:55,210 --> 00:06:49,120 you're gonna call me doctor little man 80 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:55,220 okay there was that all right so now I 81 00:07:01,750 --> 00:06:58,250 just call him just call him Robert but 82 00:07:02,060 --> 00:07:01,760 there was a second thing that has come 83 00:07:06,020 --> 00:07:02,070 up 84 00:07:09,110 --> 00:07:06,030 so often on this show which was I tried 85 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:09,120 to find out what happened when he slept 86 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:13,010 in the sarcophagus in the King's Chamber 87 00:07:21,050 --> 00:07:17,370 when all night by himself and he 88 00:07:23,510 --> 00:07:21,060 wouldn't divulge he wouldn't divulge but 89 00:07:25,490 --> 00:07:23,520 I think I'm gonna go I'm gonna take 90 00:07:29,540 --> 00:07:25,500 another crack at that tonight 91 00:07:30,290 --> 00:07:29,550 see what happens probably gonna laugh me 92 00:07:33,370 --> 00:07:30,300 off again 93 00:07:37,250 --> 00:07:33,380 little man I don't have to answer that I 94 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:37,260 don't have to answer awesome shirt alert 95 00:07:41,540 --> 00:07:39,840 you guys like the shirt guys like the 96 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:41,550 shirt that's cool that's cool 97 00:07:47,690 --> 00:07:44,610 follow us on twitter at JT radio hashtag 98 00:07:50,990 --> 00:07:47,700 f2 B is the sandbox and you can see 99 00:07:53,300 --> 00:07:51,000 Sarah and tweet right there awesome sure 100 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:53,310 need thank you you know what that's 101 00:07:56,990 --> 00:07:54,810 gonna get a retweet I'm gonna retweet 102 00:07:59,740 --> 00:07:57,000 that Sarah because that's that's just an 103 00:08:04,460 --> 00:07:59,750 awesome tweet or did you not tweet that 104 00:08:08,330 --> 00:08:04,470 wait a minute exact that is her tweet 105 00:08:10,220 --> 00:08:08,340 okay yes you're funny alright enough of 106 00:08:11,930 --> 00:08:10,230 that I could just sit and talk about 107 00:08:14,750 --> 00:08:11,940 Twitter all night long I should do that 108 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:14,760 one night just as straight Twitter night 109 00:08:23,060 --> 00:08:20,010 no guests no nothing just myself and you 110 00:08:25,730 --> 00:08:23,070 guys on Twitter not the chat rooms 111 00:08:28,190 --> 00:08:25,740 ignore it just just Twitter and me I 112 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:28,200 would love that that would be a fun 113 00:08:34,790 --> 00:08:31,130 night hey Rita 114 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:34,800 let's do a Twitter night does me and 115 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:39,450 Twitter know guest I think we can book 116 00:08:47,150 --> 00:08:42,810 that guest have you been over to on 117 00:08:50,990 --> 00:08:47,160 stellar ons te ll a are.com on stellar 118 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:51,000 calm yes Jimmy yeah Twitter night 119 00:08:55,730 --> 00:08:53,490 Twitter night you guys agree with in are 120 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:55,740 you guys down for a Twitter night that 121 00:09:01,130 --> 00:08:58,050 would be fun I think so 122 00:09:03,410 --> 00:09:01,140 just just Twitter you know little ask me 123 00:09:06,530 --> 00:09:03,420 anything on Twitter and the end we could 124 00:09:08,750 --> 00:09:06,540 just goof around back and forth just do 125 00:09:10,910 --> 00:09:08,760 a Twitter night that'd be really really 126 00:09:14,540 --> 00:09:10,920 cool all right you know what I'm gonna 127 00:09:15,710 --> 00:09:14,550 do that well do that well if I already 128 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:15,720 got next week book if 129 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:18,480 we have an empty day next week if we 130 00:09:22,819 --> 00:09:19,920 have something we can move around Rita 131 00:09:24,050 --> 00:09:22,829 let's do a Twitter night just Twitter 132 00:09:26,780 --> 00:09:24,060 all right 133 00:09:31,189 --> 00:09:26,790 does the SRV on the guitar behind you 134 00:09:33,650 --> 00:09:31,199 stand for Stevie Ray Vaughan yes it does 135 00:09:41,329 --> 00:09:33,660 I'm talking about that one right there 136 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:41,339 yes Stevie Ray Vaughan and the the if 137 00:09:46,509 --> 00:09:44,550 you look the guitar strap stands for 138 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:46,519 fade to black 139 00:09:55,970 --> 00:09:52,769 yeah yeah you like that ight where am i 140 00:09:58,819 --> 00:09:55,980 Facebook YouTube man YouTube's giving me 141 00:10:00,259 --> 00:09:58,829 hassles again just let you guys know go 142 00:10:02,780 --> 00:10:00,269 for a Twitter night Twitter night you 143 00:10:06,309 --> 00:10:02,790 guys are down you guys are down for 144 00:10:09,019 --> 00:10:06,319 Twitter night okay all right keep it up 145 00:10:10,519 --> 00:10:09,029 keep it up I want to see enough of your 146 00:10:13,749 --> 00:10:10,529 support here we'll do it we'll do it 147 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:13,759 next week I think we can pull that off 148 00:10:18,199 --> 00:10:16,800 okay Twitter Facebook YouTube everything 149 00:10:20,660 --> 00:10:18,209 is Jimmy Church go find it go follow 150 00:10:22,340 --> 00:10:20,670 like and subscribe but I'm stellar is 151 00:10:24,350 --> 00:10:22,350 the place to be on stellar is 152 00:10:27,079 --> 00:10:24,360 unbelievable I'm gonna give everybody 153 00:10:29,269 --> 00:10:27,089 the heads up I had kind of forgotten 154 00:10:30,799 --> 00:10:29,279 about this but you need to get over to 155 00:10:33,619 --> 00:10:30,809 and sell or get registered now there's a 156 00:10:35,179 --> 00:10:33,629 few things that are gonna happen but one 157 00:10:39,290 --> 00:10:35,189 of them that is getting ready to launch 158 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:39,300 is we've got a total site overhaul 159 00:10:46,610 --> 00:10:42,930 that's gonna happen yeah and I can't 160 00:10:49,369 --> 00:10:46,620 divulge I can't divulge any more than 161 00:10:49,939 --> 00:10:49,379 that but let me just say it looks 162 00:10:53,900 --> 00:10:49,949 amazing 163 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:53,910 okay I let's continue on got a lot to do 164 00:11:00,230 --> 00:10:56,610 here tonight Robert Schoch is here one 165 00:11:02,090 --> 00:11:00,240 of not only my favorite guests but just 166 00:11:03,530 --> 00:11:02,100 such a leader in this community and I 167 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:03,540 say it every time he's on the show it's 168 00:11:07,939 --> 00:11:07,290 it's rare that we all have dreams when 169 00:11:09,949 --> 00:11:07,949 were a kid 170 00:11:11,929 --> 00:11:09,959 we're gonna we're gonna be king of the 171 00:11:15,470 --> 00:11:11,939 world right we're gonna have our own 172 00:11:17,869 --> 00:11:15,480 castle we're gonna just just change 173 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:17,879 things we're gonna change things well 174 00:11:21,079 --> 00:11:19,050 you know and those are those are the 175 00:11:26,439 --> 00:11:21,089 dreams right and we all have those 176 00:11:29,150 --> 00:11:26,449 growing up but Robert changed the world 177 00:11:33,139 --> 00:11:29,160 along with John Anthony West 178 00:11:34,610 --> 00:11:33,149 changed that's a rare thing it's one 179 00:11:38,509 --> 00:11:34,620 thing to have the dreams it's another 180 00:11:40,009 --> 00:11:38,519 thing to actually do it well he did and 181 00:11:41,869 --> 00:11:40,019 he's our guest tonight I cannot wait for 182 00:11:46,610 --> 00:11:41,879 it you can also email throughout the 183 00:11:49,939 --> 00:11:46,620 show Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio.com I 184 00:11:52,369 --> 00:11:49,949 had a bunch of breaking news today and I 185 00:11:56,629 --> 00:11:52,379 got a little swallowed up and a bunch of 186 00:12:01,160 --> 00:11:56,639 stuff and the other things that were 187 00:12:04,699 --> 00:12:01,170 going on today in the political world it 188 00:12:06,590 --> 00:12:04,709 was just it was it was a bit too much to 189 00:12:09,650 --> 00:12:06,600 handle you kidding escaping on any of 190 00:12:12,170 --> 00:12:09,660 the mainstream media and of course I'm 191 00:12:14,059 --> 00:12:12,180 talking about mana four and Cohen what's 192 00:12:16,069 --> 00:12:14,069 going down with those two dudes and it 193 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:16,079 went down at the same time two timing 194 00:12:22,999 --> 00:12:20,370 was strange but that quickly took over 195 00:12:25,939 --> 00:12:23,009 everything else and and I got a little 196 00:12:28,939 --> 00:12:25,949 sidetracked not with them but with other 197 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:28,949 stuff here in the bunker and so I'll 198 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:32,689 talk about this a little bit later but 199 00:12:39,290 --> 00:12:35,250 what I am gonna talk about here in just 200 00:12:44,030 --> 00:12:39,300 a second is our universe because lost 201 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:44,040 today in all of the political conspiracy 202 00:12:50,569 --> 00:12:47,310 you know news that that is overwhelming 203 00:12:53,420 --> 00:12:50,579 everything was a very interesting story 204 00:12:54,829 --> 00:12:53,430 today that on any other day would have 205 00:12:57,439 --> 00:12:54,839 been the biggest news of the day 206 00:13:00,889 --> 00:12:57,449 okay so I'll talk about that in just a 207 00:13:03,050 --> 00:13:00,899 second but for now let's get this show 208 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:03,060 crackin happy birthday to today 209 00:13:11,210 --> 00:13:06,810 System of a Down frontman Serj Tankian 210 00:13:14,350 --> 00:13:11,220 is 51 years old one of my favorite bands 211 00:13:17,420 --> 00:13:14,360 one of my favorite bands and not only 212 00:13:19,730 --> 00:13:17,430 because the music is great but they're 213 00:13:23,059 --> 00:13:19,740 from right here in beautiful downtown 214 00:13:25,210 --> 00:13:23,069 Burbank California and I'll never forget 215 00:13:27,499 --> 00:13:25,220 back in the 90s 216 00:13:35,269 --> 00:13:27,509 yeah I'm not too sure what it was but 217 00:13:40,519 --> 00:13:35,279 I'm gonna say mid to late 90s 98 99 97 218 00:13:42,199 --> 00:13:40,529 98 99 I wake up turn on the TV and I had 219 00:13:42,569 --> 00:13:42,209 heard the day before that System of a 220 00:13:45,539 --> 00:13:42,579 Down 221 00:13:48,889 --> 00:13:45,549 gonna play a free concert in Hollywood 222 00:13:51,619 --> 00:13:48,899 and I thought how can how can anybody 223 00:13:54,689 --> 00:13:51,629 especially a band like system of it down 224 00:13:58,889 --> 00:13:54,699 go and just play a free concert on 225 00:14:02,789 --> 00:13:58,899 Hollywood Boulevard you're just asking 226 00:14:08,220 --> 00:14:02,799 for trouble and it went down man live on 227 00:14:10,530 --> 00:14:08,230 TV riot I added in the middle of the day 228 00:14:12,269 --> 00:14:10,540 to they were gonna play it was it was 229 00:14:14,850 --> 00:14:12,279 crazy they were gonna play it like noon 230 00:14:16,499 --> 00:14:14,860 in the middle of the day on Hollywood 231 00:14:19,850 --> 00:14:16,509 Boulevard I just thought what could go 232 00:14:22,590 --> 00:14:19,860 wrong there right and it did and 233 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:22,600 helicopters and they tore the stage 234 00:14:26,249 --> 00:14:24,730 apart and something having system I've 235 00:14:28,499 --> 00:14:26,259 done was like you know we don't have 236 00:14:31,049 --> 00:14:28,509 security and that was that was the crazy 237 00:14:33,869 --> 00:14:31,059 thing you know if you're gonna go and 238 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:33,879 and set up for something like that you 239 00:14:39,479 --> 00:14:36,730 better be ready right and they weren't 240 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:39,489 expecting the turnout which it which is 241 00:14:44,789 --> 00:14:42,910 what have a thousand it was crazy 242 00:14:47,069 --> 00:14:44,799 this is announcing you know what we're 243 00:14:49,139 --> 00:14:47,079 not gonna play well that was the second 244 00:14:51,869 --> 00:14:49,149 mistake there wasn't enough security 245 00:14:53,639 --> 00:14:51,879 there and I think everybody in that 246 00:14:59,429 --> 00:14:53,649 crowd made off with a piece of the Bands 247 00:15:00,900 --> 00:14:59,439 gear though that it was nuts it was you 248 00:15:06,269 --> 00:15:00,910 guys should post that up with Twitter so 249 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:06,279 now that to me a system of it down got 250 00:15:13,229 --> 00:15:09,850 their original gangsta stripes right on 251 00:15:15,689 --> 00:15:13,239 that day I've just been a fan ever since 252 00:15:17,759 --> 00:15:15,699 system of night if you guys got pictures 253 00:15:20,429 --> 00:15:17,769 of video you know you're out there 254 00:15:22,949 --> 00:15:20,439 search in the web right now of that of 255 00:15:25,409 --> 00:15:22,959 that concert in Hollywood you should 256 00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:25,419 post it up in Twitter it was crazy man 257 00:15:30,929 --> 00:15:28,720 it was crazy I watched that live on TV 258 00:15:33,259 --> 00:15:30,939 for like two hours it was some of the 259 00:15:37,669 --> 00:15:33,269 best reality TV I'd seen in a long time 260 00:15:44,249 --> 00:15:37,679 system of down on this day in history 261 00:15:47,699 --> 00:15:44,259 1911 the theft of the Mona Lisa that's 262 00:15:50,999 --> 00:15:47,709 right well the theft happened on well 263 00:15:54,150 --> 00:15:51,009 they suspect the day before alright so 264 00:15:56,490 --> 00:15:54,160 on this day on the 21st it might have 265 00:16:00,470 --> 00:15:56,500 been the 20th are not exactly sure 266 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:00,480 an amateur painter sets up his easel 267 00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:04,210 near Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa in 268 00:16:09,450 --> 00:16:07,120 the Louvre in Paris so he's setting up 269 00:16:10,860 --> 00:16:09,460 you know and he knows the Mona Lisa was 270 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:10,870 right here right you know it's like 271 00:16:14,130 --> 00:16:12,250 right here and he's setting up his easel 272 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:14,140 and then you know and get to how does 273 00:16:18,450 --> 00:16:15,310 paint stuff and he looks in the 274 00:16:22,230 --> 00:16:18,460 paintings gone it's like holy crap the 275 00:16:24,750 --> 00:16:22,240 Mona Lisa is gone poof it was there you 276 00:16:27,690 --> 00:16:24,760 know it's got the dust print right right 277 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:27,700 playing spot well the day before and 278 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:31,330 perhaps in one of the most you know 279 00:16:39,660 --> 00:16:34,810 browsing our theft attempts of all time 280 00:16:42,450 --> 00:16:39,670 a Vincenzo Peruggia pulled it off he 281 00:16:44,970 --> 00:16:42,460 walked into the Louvre took the painting 282 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:44,980 off of the wall stuck it in his jacket 283 00:16:51,900 --> 00:16:47,890 I'm not making this up and walked out of 284 00:16:55,610 --> 00:16:51,910 the Louvre with the Mona Lisa I swear 285 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:55,620 that's how it happened and he escaped 286 00:17:00,600 --> 00:16:57,210 that's right 287 00:17:04,260 --> 00:17:00,610 ten years later he got caught when he 288 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:04,270 was trying to collect ransom for the 289 00:17:10,679 --> 00:17:09,010 painting to return it to Italy that's it 290 00:17:14,510 --> 00:17:10,689 he got caught the Louvre got the 291 00:17:20,970 --> 00:17:14,520 painting back that happened on this day 292 00:17:23,309 --> 00:17:20,980 in 1911 Fader fact one this is vetted 293 00:17:26,550 --> 00:17:23,319 almost as good as yesterday's fader fact 294 00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:26,560 I don't know this one may be better Rita 295 00:17:32,570 --> 00:17:28,480 we need to research this one just a 296 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:32,580 little bit but I vetted it today 297 00:17:45,290 --> 00:17:37,810 one in three divorce filings one in 298 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:45,300 three include the word face book 299 00:17:58,380 --> 00:17:55,290 that's right one in three there you go 300 00:18:00,390 --> 00:17:58,390 don't you like that tonight we have very 301 00:18:02,700 --> 00:18:00,400 special guest dr. Robert Schoch is here 302 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:02,710 we're going to do a complete update on 303 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:05,290 all the news in Egypt and no telling 304 00:18:08,850 --> 00:18:06,970 where the conversation is going to go 305 00:18:10,139 --> 00:18:08,860 because it is dr. Robert Schoch and this 306 00:18:13,049 --> 00:18:10,149 is fade to black 307 00:18:17,479 --> 00:18:13,059 tomorrow night Richard bleep and Dolan 308 00:18:20,159 --> 00:18:17,489 is here and once again Richards here 309 00:18:21,869 --> 00:18:20,169 hold on you know we just don't know what 310 00:18:23,879 --> 00:18:21,879 what's gonna happen there there's a lot 311 00:18:26,459 --> 00:18:23,889 of things that are going on with the UFO 312 00:18:28,679 --> 00:18:26,469 community right now and that's when you 313 00:18:31,739 --> 00:18:28,689 bring in the one and only Richard bleep 314 00:18:33,959 --> 00:18:31,749 and Dolan to set it all straight that's 315 00:18:35,579 --> 00:18:33,969 tomorrow night Thursday night is another 316 00:18:37,489 --> 00:18:35,589 Fator night which on Rapoport and 317 00:18:41,309 --> 00:18:37,499 there's no more fake newsroom live 318 00:18:45,719 --> 00:18:41,319 followed by open lines all night long 319 00:18:48,229 --> 00:18:45,729 all right today in all this craziness of 320 00:18:52,469 --> 00:18:48,239 the news all this craziness going down 321 00:18:56,549 --> 00:18:52,479 calling this man afford that man all 322 00:19:00,089 --> 00:18:56,559 right buried in the news story today was 323 00:19:02,539 --> 00:19:00,099 a really cool article about a second 324 00:19:06,019 --> 00:19:02,549 universe that's right 325 00:19:12,629 --> 00:19:06,029 second evidence of a second universe one 326 00:19:19,889 --> 00:19:12,639 before our universe right now hold on 327 00:19:22,229 --> 00:19:19,899 kids that's a huge story and so I'm 328 00:19:25,589 --> 00:19:22,239 gonna talk about this probably for the 329 00:19:27,259 --> 00:19:25,599 next month and part of that story today 330 00:19:31,379 --> 00:19:27,269 as I was reading through it a few 331 00:19:36,569 --> 00:19:31,389 blaring things stuck out for me I'm not 332 00:19:40,849 --> 00:19:36,579 a physicist I'm getting close though not 333 00:19:42,989 --> 00:19:40,859 a physicist I read oh and the 334 00:19:46,109 --> 00:19:42,999 documentaries that I go through with 335 00:19:48,239 --> 00:19:46,119 with physicists and and reading you know 336 00:19:50,249 --> 00:19:48,249 they're they're they're reports and 337 00:19:53,429 --> 00:19:50,259 papers and you know it just seems like 338 00:19:55,739 --> 00:19:53,439 that's all I do these days right well 339 00:19:56,669 --> 00:19:55,749 there's a few things that kind of stuck 340 00:20:00,839 --> 00:19:56,679 out for me 341 00:20:05,369 --> 00:20:00,849 and I am going to through my research 342 00:20:10,889 --> 00:20:05,379 and what I have read and what has taken 343 00:20:14,809 --> 00:20:10,899 my thought pattern in a direction it's 344 00:20:19,169 --> 00:20:14,819 now conflicting with the conflicting 345 00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:19,179 stuff that is going on inside of the 346 00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:21,039 professional community when it comes to 347 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:23,710 science and in physics and the universe 348 00:20:30,930 --> 00:20:27,130 and the history of the universe again 349 00:20:37,950 --> 00:20:30,940 I'm not a physicist but I but I've got a 350 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:37,960 grip I do so years ago that's good let's 351 00:20:45,090 --> 00:20:42,010 go back let's go back 2530 years maybe a 352 00:20:47,250 --> 00:20:45,100 little longer when these stories about 353 00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:47,260 the expanding universe and and the Big 354 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:51,120 Bang Theory started to really take hold 355 00:21:00,240 --> 00:20:57,250 one of the theories proposed and nearly 356 00:21:02,909 --> 00:21:00,250 accepted and still it's it's a part of 357 00:21:07,649 --> 00:21:02,919 the community today is that the universe 358 00:21:09,450 --> 00:21:07,659 is cyclical it expands it contracts goes 359 00:21:12,389 --> 00:21:09,460 back to nothing another Big Bang 360 00:21:15,539 --> 00:21:12,399 everything starts over again expands 361 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:15,549 till it can't expand anymore and we're 362 00:21:22,529 --> 00:21:17,049 in the middle of one of these cycles 363 00:21:28,980 --> 00:21:22,539 that's one now I've got a problem with 364 00:21:31,710 --> 00:21:28,990 that if you go back to the Big Bang and 365 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:31,720 one of the thoughts that everybody has 366 00:21:36,180 --> 00:21:33,610 well you know I you know how could it 367 00:21:38,970 --> 00:21:36,190 start with absolutely nothing and and 368 00:21:40,649 --> 00:21:38,980 everything is compressed into then to a 369 00:21:42,210 --> 00:21:40,659 little bit you know nothing until it 370 00:21:45,210 --> 00:21:42,220 can't compress anymore then boom it it 371 00:21:48,539 --> 00:21:45,220 blows up and then and then everything 372 00:21:52,139 --> 00:21:48,549 that is right now started from that well 373 00:21:55,889 --> 00:21:52,149 that's not entirely true 374 00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:55,899 I mean in that there's no dirt in there 375 00:22:00,779 --> 00:21:58,080 there's no gold in there and there's no 376 00:22:04,139 --> 00:22:00,789 water in there and there's no part it 377 00:22:09,779 --> 00:22:04,149 that's not what's there what's there is 378 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:09,789 energy P R energy and the energy this is 379 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:13,090 before everything is made is what caused 380 00:22:20,909 --> 00:22:15,570 the Big Bang boom and it's just energy 381 00:22:23,070 --> 00:22:20,919 that's all it is so over time and early 382 00:22:25,919 --> 00:22:23,080 on you know the first five hundred 383 00:22:29,250 --> 00:22:25,929 thousand years of the universe after the 384 00:22:31,649 --> 00:22:29,260 Big Bang all of these energy particles 385 00:22:34,430 --> 00:22:31,659 are out flying around they eventually 386 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:34,440 collide with each other and combine and 387 00:22:40,610 --> 00:22:37,410 eventually than stars and 388 00:22:44,420 --> 00:22:40,620 and eventually gases and and things are 389 00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:44,430 formed but all of it is not compressed 390 00:22:49,790 --> 00:22:46,500 they're not you know there's no dirt and 391 00:22:52,910 --> 00:22:49,800 water and iron and copper and diamonds 392 00:22:56,290 --> 00:22:52,920 and carbon and no no it was just energy 393 00:22:59,870 --> 00:22:56,300 that blew up the energy eventually 394 00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:59,880 combined hitting itself into other party 395 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:01,440 then it happened over time okay and 396 00:23:07,220 --> 00:23:04,290 that's that's the big bang I'm not a 397 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:07,230 physicist but I think you understand 398 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:09,450 what I'm saying so there's that and then 399 00:23:16,820 --> 00:23:12,210 the universe form I can I can go with 400 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:16,830 that but I can't go with is the reversal 401 00:23:29,710 --> 00:23:25,170 let me explain because one of the 402 00:23:33,050 --> 00:23:29,720 reasons why the reversal can't happen 403 00:23:35,060 --> 00:23:33,060 I'm talking about you know it expands 404 00:23:38,330 --> 00:23:35,070 and and then it goes to assert born them 405 00:23:42,980 --> 00:23:38,340 will cause is dark matter there are 406 00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:42,990 forces there are forces out there one of 407 00:23:47,690 --> 00:23:45,000 them being dark matter and of course 408 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:47,700 gravity that's another thing that is 409 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:50,250 pushing the universe apart and will 410 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:51,510 contain the reason why it hasn't 411 00:23:56,660 --> 00:23:53,730 collapsed back on itself it's because 412 00:23:57,500 --> 00:23:56,670 there are forces that are forcing it in 413 00:24:00,200 --> 00:23:57,510 the other direction 414 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:00,210 I'm almost of the opinion that it's 415 00:24:04,130 --> 00:24:02,010 gonna continue going that way and it's 416 00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,140 not going to reverse back on itself but 417 00:24:09,740 --> 00:24:05,760 one of the reasons why it can't and it 418 00:24:11,870 --> 00:24:09,750 won't is dark matter there is a lot of 419 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:11,880 space out there and I'm talking about 420 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:15,690 space in between objects there is a lot 421 00:24:22,250 --> 00:24:17,970 of dark matter there's as much dark 422 00:24:24,350 --> 00:24:22,260 matter out there as there is matter okay 423 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:24,360 and it's just not going to happen it's 424 00:24:31,580 --> 00:24:27,090 not going to compress back on itself it 425 00:24:34,460 --> 00:24:31,590 may stabilize right where it gets to the 426 00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:34,470 equilibrium of the dark matter and 427 00:24:41,740 --> 00:24:38,070 matter equalizing on itself and I can 428 00:24:44,660 --> 00:24:41,750 see that but totally reversing itself no 429 00:24:46,580 --> 00:24:44,670 because it's it's forcing itself out 430 00:24:48,650 --> 00:24:46,590 there isn't enough resistance out there 431 00:24:51,260 --> 00:24:48,660 on the outside of the universe to stop 432 00:24:53,540 --> 00:24:51,270 it and we're gonna continue to expand 433 00:24:56,030 --> 00:24:53,550 but there may be an equilibrium point 434 00:25:00,170 --> 00:24:56,040 but will it turn around and dark matter 435 00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:00,180 suddenly changes its mind all right that 436 00:25:03,740 --> 00:25:02,400 doesn't want a reason and and it's just 437 00:25:06,430 --> 00:25:03,750 gonna allow the universe to collapse 438 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:06,440 back on itself no it's not gonna happen 439 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:09,090 so there's that and I'm not a physicist 440 00:25:16,550 --> 00:25:11,610 but it just makes sense to me okay and 441 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:16,560 then there is this just like the 442 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:18,930 thoughts you had when you were a kid 443 00:25:23,150 --> 00:25:21,210 about the Big Bang and how could it be 444 00:25:25,220 --> 00:25:23,160 possible that everything that there is 445 00:25:27,380 --> 00:25:25,230 like the planet Earth could just 446 00:25:28,670 --> 00:25:27,390 compress into just look and all the 447 00:25:30,890 --> 00:25:28,680 other planets and all the other stars 448 00:25:32,930 --> 00:25:30,900 and the universe it just collapsed into 449 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:32,940 just something that it's just this big 450 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:35,730 you know that is the size of nothing and 451 00:25:43,730 --> 00:25:37,650 then all of a sudden it blows up again 452 00:25:46,460 --> 00:25:43,740 no because now the reason why is all 453 00:25:49,730 --> 00:25:46,470 that was created the first time around 454 00:25:53,890 --> 00:25:49,740 from energy and all the matter that is 455 00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:53,900 around us is now created just because a 456 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:56,370 physicist wants to say that it's 457 00:26:00,610 --> 00:25:58,650 reversing and is gonna collapse back no 458 00:26:05,060 --> 00:26:00,620 now we're talking about reversing all of 459 00:26:07,610 --> 00:26:05,070 those processes that got us here that's 460 00:26:10,780 --> 00:26:07,620 a whole different situation one 461 00:26:13,580 --> 00:26:10,790 direction you know almost like chaos or 462 00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:13,590 entropy right where everything is being 463 00:26:21,740 --> 00:26:18,630 created but you can't uncreated it's 464 00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:21,750 like cracking an egg you crack an egg 465 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:24,720 it's cracked you can't reverse it you 466 00:26:33,890 --> 00:26:28,430 can't unscramble an egg he can't do it 467 00:26:39,230 --> 00:26:33,900 so it's the same idea here I don't see 468 00:26:43,010 --> 00:26:39,240 this process but yet in this article 469 00:26:45,290 --> 00:26:43,020 today there are there are two three four 470 00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:45,300 sides of the scientific community that 471 00:26:50,110 --> 00:26:47,760 are actually fighting and arguing about 472 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:50,120 this and I don't care what the math says 473 00:26:56,450 --> 00:26:54,090 you can't undo everything it just 474 00:26:59,060 --> 00:26:56,460 doesn't make sense you cannot compare if 475 00:27:02,600 --> 00:26:59,070 you take out all the space of all of 476 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:02,610 everything in between all of the atoms I 477 00:27:06,740 --> 00:27:04,770 get that oh man will you 478 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:06,750 the Empire State Building you take out 479 00:27:11,930 --> 00:27:08,490 all the thing you know it'll fit into 480 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:11,940 you know you know okay I get that idea 481 00:27:17,530 --> 00:27:15,090 but if you take the entire universe and 482 00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:17,540 all of the matter of everything that is 483 00:27:23,210 --> 00:27:20,580 that is not gonna compress down into a 484 00:27:26,780 --> 00:27:23,220 sugar cube it's not it's gonna be 485 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:26,790 humongo you're not gonna be able to 486 00:27:30,860 --> 00:27:29,130 reverse those processes unless you're 487 00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:30,870 talking about the total breakdown of 488 00:27:34,580 --> 00:27:33,360 everything just I just don't see it I 489 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:34,590 don't see it that way 490 00:27:39,290 --> 00:27:37,530 I don't it doesn't make any sense so 491 00:27:41,630 --> 00:27:39,300 that's me and the scientific community 492 00:27:44,420 --> 00:27:41,640 is arguing about it and it's a big deal 493 00:27:46,850 --> 00:27:44,430 and it's a big argument and today it was 494 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:46,860 out there and it was in the news totally 495 00:27:53,180 --> 00:27:50,370 overshadowed by the BS Etta's going down 496 00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:53,190 in Washington back to my point on all of 497 00:28:01,850 --> 00:27:59,210 this we have so many important important 498 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:01,860 things that need to be discussed and we 499 00:28:08,810 --> 00:28:05,370 we must figure these things out but 500 00:28:11,810 --> 00:28:08,820 apparently this BS going down in 501 00:28:13,820 --> 00:28:11,820 Washington is is more important than the 502 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:13,830 future of humanity or where we came from 503 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:19,170 and apparently the news thinks so and it 504 00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:22,290 really bothers me I went through today 505 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:25,200 I'm not gonna bore anybody with any of 506 00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:26,610 it but you know I went through headlines 507 00:28:32,330 --> 00:28:29,760 today and and I'm looking through and 508 00:28:34,730 --> 00:28:32,340 the reason why I did it is because I see 509 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:34,740 this amazing article on the universe and 510 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:37,710 I just thought to myself what is it that 511 00:28:41,930 --> 00:28:39,330 the mainstream media is pushing down 512 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:41,940 everybody's throats you know and I went 513 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:44,250 and looked at the headlines and I was 514 00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:48,090 blown away by the nonsense that is their 515 00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:50,670 utter nonsense and you go to one website 516 00:28:55,940 --> 00:28:53,520 and it's one set of opinions and 517 00:28:58,100 --> 00:28:55,950 nonsense which is apparently the most 518 00:28:59,720 --> 00:28:58,110 important news in the history of man you 519 00:29:01,640 --> 00:28:59,730 go to another website it doesn't have 520 00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:01,650 anything that this first website is but 521 00:29:05,660 --> 00:29:03,840 they have their opinions and what is the 522 00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:05,670 most important news of the day over here 523 00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:07,440 and I went to a third one and I'm 524 00:29:10,550 --> 00:29:09,510 reading through and I just I couldn't 525 00:29:13,010 --> 00:29:10,560 believe my eyes 526 00:29:15,340 --> 00:29:13,020 I just couldn't believe it and here we 527 00:29:17,270 --> 00:29:15,350 have something that needs to be 528 00:29:21,230 --> 00:29:17,280 fundamentally address 529 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:21,240 and figured out where do we come from 530 00:29:26,210 --> 00:29:24,330 where are we going right and it's right 531 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:26,220 there and they're making they're making 532 00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:28,890 valid arguments on both sides totally 533 00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:31,110 lost in the news will be off of all of 534 00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:33,390 the websites tomorrow and it's like 535 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:35,909 falling on my shoulders which is fine 536 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:39,690 but and shoulders like mine I should say 537 00:29:46,669 --> 00:29:43,530 to to keep this out there and to have it 538 00:29:47,270 --> 00:29:46,679 discussed it's it's unbelievable to me 539 00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:47,280 all right 540 00:29:51,470 --> 00:29:49,320 and that's why we've got Robert Schoch 541 00:29:53,390 --> 00:29:51,480 on the show tonight so let me get out of 542 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:53,400 here let's get straight to Roberts shout 543 00:29:59,390 --> 00:29:55,530 all of the news that is Egypt right we 544 00:30:02,779 --> 00:29:59,400 had Alexandria and which with the the 545 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:02,789 sarcophagus we have the Grand Gallery 546 00:30:08,750 --> 00:30:05,490 and the new chamber that was discovered 547 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:08,760 we've got the the e/m studies that just 548 00:30:15,770 --> 00:30:11,610 came out of Egypt about the Great 549 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:15,780 Pyramid all huge stories buried right 550 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:18,090 buried we will do all of that tonight 551 00:30:23,539 --> 00:30:19,770 this is fade to black I'm your host 552 00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:23,549 Jimmy church and before I do this we are 553 00:30:30,409 --> 00:30:26,460 good there on the GameChanger network at 554 00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:30,419 KCRA the planet if you want to hang out 555 00:30:36,110 --> 00:30:33,390 we've got to chat rooms 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00:35:12,819 --> 00:35:10,339 change teeth set over the banners at 627 00:35:17,230 --> 00:35:12,829 Jimmy Turks radio calm click use the 628 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:17,240 promo code fader fabr you will get free 629 00:35:24,009 --> 00:35:22,130 shipping dr. Robert M shock full time 630 00:35:27,099 --> 00:35:24,019 faculty member at the college of general 631 00:35:29,620 --> 00:35:27,109 studies of Boston University since 1984 632 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:29,630 earned his PhD in geology and geophysics 633 00:35:36,789 --> 00:35:33,410 at Yale University is M s and M Phil in 634 00:35:39,130 --> 00:35:36,799 geology and geophysics from Yale as well 635 00:35:42,549 --> 00:35:39,140 as degrees in anthropology at PA and 636 00:35:46,450 --> 00:35:42,559 geology a BS from Georgetown were George 637 00:35:49,299 --> 00:35:46,460 torched George Washington University in 638 00:35:52,089 --> 00:35:49,309 the early 90s dr. Schaack along with 639 00:35:55,329 --> 00:35:52,099 John Anthony West recast the date of the 640 00:35:59,019 --> 00:35:55,339 Great Sphinx of Egypt from 2600 BC back 641 00:36:01,089 --> 00:35:59,029 to around 10,500 BC by demonstrating 642 00:36:03,130 --> 00:36:01,099 that the monument had been heavily 643 00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:03,140 eroded by water despite the fact that 644 00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:04,910 its location on the edge of the Sahara 645 00:36:10,029 --> 00:36:07,849 had endeared hyper-arid climactic 646 00:36:12,549 --> 00:36:10,039 conditions for the past 5,000 years now 647 00:36:14,319 --> 00:36:12,559 he revealed to the world that mankind's 648 00:36:17,950 --> 00:36:14,329 history is greater and older than 649 00:36:19,569 --> 00:36:17,960 previously believed tonight we're going 650 00:36:21,579 --> 00:36:19,579 to discuss everything we've got a lot of 651 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:21,589 breaking news out of Egypt we have the 652 00:36:25,839 --> 00:36:23,450 second Sphinx discovery we've got the 653 00:36:29,230 --> 00:36:25,849 sarcophagus at Alexandria we got the 654 00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:29,240 recent e/m measurements published and 655 00:36:33,220 --> 00:36:31,250 that paper we're gonna get heavily into 656 00:36:35,230 --> 00:36:33,230 that and with the Great Pyramid and of 657 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:35,240 course its new chamber above the Grand 658 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:36,890 Gallery and then we also have the new 659 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:39,410 museum that's opening up at Keys all 660 00:36:44,140 --> 00:36:40,970 that much more tonight with our guest 661 00:36:46,539 --> 00:36:44,150 dr. Robert M shock Robert good evening 662 00:36:48,910 --> 00:36:46,549 my friend how are you it's wonderful 663 00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:48,920 wonderful to be here lots going on in 664 00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:50,390 Egypt my friend 665 00:36:57,609 --> 00:36:52,640 lots going on and you know what's 666 00:37:00,579 --> 00:36:57,619 interesting for me is most of this most 667 00:37:03,730 --> 00:37:00,589 of it is all within the last month month 668 00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:03,740 and a half it is it we've been waiting 669 00:37:08,339 --> 00:37:05,839 for this kind of stuff for a very long 670 00:37:10,609 --> 00:37:08,349 time and as I discussed with you earlier 671 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:10,619 in the week 672 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:13,410 I don't think not sense what you and 673 00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:17,490 jaws did back in 91 92 I don't think 674 00:37:22,970 --> 00:37:18,960 we've had this kind of news come out of 675 00:37:25,489 --> 00:37:22,980 agiza sense yeah I will agree with you 676 00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:25,499 all of a sudden I don't know just a lot 677 00:37:29,870 --> 00:37:27,630 of things have been happening a lot of 678 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:29,880 things have been released and you have 679 00:37:34,789 --> 00:37:31,890 to wonder if part of it is just to drum 680 00:37:36,049 --> 00:37:34,799 up tourism and interest in Egypt but I 681 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:36,059 think it's more than that there's 682 00:37:40,220 --> 00:37:38,490 there's genuinely things happening in 683 00:37:42,769 --> 00:37:40,230 Egypt you don't think they would have 684 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:42,779 that kind they wouldn't conspire for 685 00:37:49,940 --> 00:37:47,490 that would you know they would never but 686 00:37:53,569 --> 00:37:49,950 but you know you can call it conspiracy 687 00:37:58,339 --> 00:37:53,579 or not it does make some sense for them 688 00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:58,349 to release things sort of in groups to 689 00:38:02,329 --> 00:38:00,480 catch people's attention and you were 690 00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:02,339 just talking about that I think you know 691 00:38:07,849 --> 00:38:03,599 how you have to get people's attention 692 00:38:11,059 --> 00:38:07,859 and several things at one time can do 693 00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:11,069 that yeah and just like today okay all 694 00:38:17,569 --> 00:38:13,440 right before we get in Egypt let me ask 695 00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:17,579 you this and as a geologist I don't know 696 00:38:22,970 --> 00:38:20,400 and and the world and science of 697 00:38:26,319 --> 00:38:22,980 geophysics how much of this applies to 698 00:38:28,609 --> 00:38:26,329 you but certainly as a youngster you 699 00:38:30,380 --> 00:38:28,619 contemplated the Big Bang and the 700 00:38:35,150 --> 00:38:30,390 creation of everything that we've all 701 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:35,160 done it okay is it possible okay when 702 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:37,170 you go back to the Big Bang and where 703 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:40,410 it's energy the energy over thousands of 704 00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:40,890 years 705 00:38:44,839 --> 00:38:42,720 you know collides with itself and 706 00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:44,849 eventually particles and things combine 707 00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:47,849 and and then boom we have us today okay 708 00:38:52,970 --> 00:38:50,730 I understand the idea behind that but 709 00:38:56,989 --> 00:38:52,980 the reversal of the universe to collapse 710 00:39:05,210 --> 00:38:56,999 back onto itself how do you undo the 711 00:39:07,609 --> 00:39:05,220 creation of rocks right rock I don't 712 00:39:09,579 --> 00:39:07,619 know that you undo creation of rocks but 713 00:39:11,779 --> 00:39:09,589 you can probably destroy them and 714 00:39:15,799 --> 00:39:11,789 something that I think you have to take 715 00:39:19,339 --> 00:39:15,809 into account is that we do not know 716 00:39:22,099 --> 00:39:19,349 everything that's a given we do not 717 00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:22,109 perceive everything and the universe 718 00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:24,400 that we live in is 719 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:27,760 composed of all the particles that we 720 00:39:33,270 --> 00:39:31,210 even know about in equal amounts so I'm 721 00:39:35,490 --> 00:39:33,280 just throwing this out right something 722 00:39:37,950 --> 00:39:35,500 to think about that you can have for 723 00:39:41,130 --> 00:39:37,960 instance a universe that is essentially 724 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:41,140 in this a non-technical non-physical 725 00:39:47,250 --> 00:39:44,530 term are not physicists term you can 726 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:47,260 have things like what they call mirror 727 00:39:55,230 --> 00:39:51,210 matter which if mirror matter basically 728 00:39:58,170 --> 00:39:55,240 can overlap with our matter but has all 729 00:40:00,450 --> 00:39:58,180 the same properties but serve in ramier 730 00:40:02,660 --> 00:40:00,460 reverse so we're not even aware of it 731 00:40:05,610 --> 00:40:02,670 except for slight gravitational effects 732 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:05,620 you can have antimatter that when 733 00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:08,970 antimatter comes into contact with 734 00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:12,220 matter as we know it you know non 735 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:17,110 antimatter it essentially you know now 736 00:40:21,870 --> 00:40:19,810 lates itself so there are different ways 737 00:40:25,410 --> 00:40:21,880 and I hate to say this way that you 738 00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:25,420 could get rid of our universe as I see 739 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:27,760 it now I'm not predicting any of those 740 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:30,010 I'm not saying any of that is going to 741 00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:33,210 happen but it's different perhaps than 742 00:40:38,730 --> 00:40:36,880 undoing the universe but it seems like 743 00:40:42,590 --> 00:40:38,740 there are certainly ways that you could 744 00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:42,600 have for instance another universe that 745 00:40:49,020 --> 00:40:45,430 annihilated our universe and itself in 746 00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:49,030 the process I don't think that's totally 747 00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:51,910 inconceivable ok see that's why you're 748 00:40:59,310 --> 00:40:53,710 on the show you just straighten my head 749 00:41:01,860 --> 00:40:59,320 out a little bit because you know how do 750 00:41:04,890 --> 00:41:01,870 you undo everything that was done it's 751 00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,900 like the opposite of entropy right yeah 752 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:06,400 yeah exactly 753 00:41:10,770 --> 00:41:08,410 so if you're going to disassemble 754 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:10,780 everything but as the universe would 755 00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:12,850 collapse on itself well then the 756 00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:16,390 antimatter that is existing would 757 00:41:23,340 --> 00:41:20,560 combine with the said matter and dialate 758 00:41:27,060 --> 00:41:23,350 itself and then yeah and that turns into 759 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:27,070 energy right exactly and we may have in 760 00:41:30,780 --> 00:41:28,450 there I think there's some evidence of 761 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:30,790 this we have pockets of antimatter in 762 00:41:36,940 --> 00:41:33,850 various places that you know we don't we 763 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:36,950 live in a subsection we 764 00:41:47,049 --> 00:41:39,650 that is not predominant that were we 765 00:41:49,299 --> 00:41:47,059 wouldn't be talking here at all we will 766 00:41:52,329 --> 00:41:49,309 be talking at all that okay that's 767 00:41:57,009 --> 00:41:52,339 that's interesting I'm now gonna have to 768 00:41:59,680 --> 00:41:57,019 rethink it's just I don't I'm not so 769 00:42:02,950 --> 00:41:59,690 sure this is this is my take okay so 770 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:02,960 going back I just want your opinion on 771 00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:05,930 this so we have you know dark matter and 772 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:08,569 and gravity which is forcing the 773 00:42:12,940 --> 00:42:10,970 universe to expand all right all right 774 00:42:15,849 --> 00:42:12,950 the resistance and it's pushing yeah 775 00:42:19,569 --> 00:42:15,859 yeah but the whole business of dark 776 00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:19,579 matter is problematic also and it's not 777 00:42:25,479 --> 00:42:22,400 clear that you know dark matter and dark 778 00:42:27,759 --> 00:42:25,489 energy are explanations because we don't 779 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:27,769 have an explanation right and not to 780 00:42:32,799 --> 00:42:29,690 drive it back to Egyptology and 781 00:42:35,229 --> 00:42:32,809 archaeology but dark matter and dark 782 00:42:36,970 --> 00:42:35,239 energy sort of remind me of the classic 783 00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:36,980 archaeologists when they find something 784 00:42:41,049 --> 00:42:38,720 and they don't know where it is it's 785 00:42:43,930 --> 00:42:41,059 either a tomb or temple so they give a 786 00:42:46,329 --> 00:42:43,940 name to it and somehow that explains it 787 00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:46,339 when it doesn't explain it yeah so they 788 00:42:49,930 --> 00:42:48,319 have make sense right right right and 789 00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:49,940 they have de right so to explain 790 00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:51,920 everything yeah so I think there are 791 00:42:55,450 --> 00:42:53,839 real questions about dark energy and 792 00:42:58,900 --> 00:42:55,460 dark matter and I'll also throw 793 00:43:02,739 --> 00:42:58,910 something else out here which is and I'm 794 00:43:05,289 --> 00:43:02,749 not I don't want people to think I'm all 795 00:43:07,329 --> 00:43:05,299 of a sudden a big quote electric 796 00:43:09,009 --> 00:43:07,339 universe proponent but if people know 797 00:43:12,670 --> 00:43:09,019 about the concept of the electric 798 00:43:16,809 --> 00:43:12,680 universe serve a different cosmological 799 00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:16,819 look at things and really exploring some 800 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:20,569 of these issues of the large-scale 801 00:43:26,799 --> 00:43:23,450 structure and development of the 802 00:43:30,009 --> 00:43:26,809 universe something that people in that 803 00:43:31,450 --> 00:43:30,019 school and when I say school that line 804 00:43:34,690 --> 00:43:31,460 of thinking and these are serious 805 00:43:37,779 --> 00:43:34,700 physicist and other researchers have 806 00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:37,789 suggested that electrical forces and 807 00:43:43,539 --> 00:43:40,569 large scale have been grossly 808 00:43:46,299 --> 00:43:43,549 underestimated most cosmologists have 809 00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:46,309 only been talking about gravity at the 810 00:43:49,870 --> 00:43:47,599 largest scales 811 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:49,880 they've downplayed electrical forces 812 00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:50,570 which could 813 00:43:56,620 --> 00:43:53,510 both attract and repel and that that may 814 00:43:58,270 --> 00:43:56,630 well be a major mistake and then I went 815 00:44:02,410 --> 00:43:58,280 throughout something else which is even 816 00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:02,420 further out there but mocks plunk the 817 00:44:09,610 --> 00:44:04,550 great physicist who of course won the 818 00:44:12,370 --> 00:44:09,620 Nobel Prize for the development the 819 00:44:15,490 --> 00:44:12,380 earliest development of quantum theory 820 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:15,500 he ultimately is quoted and he came to 821 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:18,050 the conclusion that matter forget about 822 00:44:22,210 --> 00:44:20,210 matter not forget about matter but 823 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:22,220 matter is not primary what's really 824 00:44:27,850 --> 00:44:24,410 primary is consciousness and everything 825 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:27,860 ultimately arises from consciousness and 826 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:29,930 I'm not saying that we all imagined it 827 00:44:36,820 --> 00:44:33,890 but essentially consciousness as a field 828 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:36,830 if you would to use a physical physicist 829 00:44:45,970 --> 00:44:41,050 term or you know it's something beyond 830 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:45,980 matter and energy that where everything 831 00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:49,490 may have originated if I'm making any 832 00:44:55,870 --> 00:44:52,310 sense what no that does that does and I 833 00:44:59,920 --> 00:44:55,880 love that concept of from Max about that 834 00:45:04,060 --> 00:44:59,930 and and and staying on this if the 835 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:04,070 cyclical part of our universe expanding 836 00:45:08,110 --> 00:45:05,810 contracting back to the Big Bang 837 00:45:09,850 --> 00:45:08,120 restarting again and and that's the 838 00:45:12,430 --> 00:45:09,860 cycle right we're going to expand and 839 00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:12,440 yeah that's a cycle some people have 840 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:14,510 talked about I mean you know do we know 841 00:45:20,590 --> 00:45:16,730 if that's really the cycle right or is 842 00:45:22,420 --> 00:45:20,600 this somehow mitigated or are there 843 00:45:25,060 --> 00:45:22,430 other universes that intercede and 844 00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:25,070 ultimately is there this thing behind it 845 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:27,920 consciousness that someone will call it 846 00:45:34,930 --> 00:45:32,570 universal level that expresses itself if 847 00:45:37,870 --> 00:45:34,940 I could put it that way through matter 848 00:45:40,450 --> 00:45:37,880 and energy at some times but other ways 849 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:40,460 at other times perhaps yeah and time 850 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:43,850 itself is a big issue here what what is 851 00:45:48,010 --> 00:45:46,130 time where does time originate and how 852 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:48,020 does that tie in with everything else 853 00:45:52,660 --> 00:45:51,290 yeah and that's it that's a whole we 854 00:45:55,420 --> 00:45:52,670 should do a whole show at that time 855 00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:55,430 that's incredible yeah I mean you dimed 856 00:46:00,580 --> 00:45:58,610 is that's one of the great great 857 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:00,590 unknowns really when it comes right down 858 00:46:04,210 --> 00:46:02,570 to it it's funny because we live in a 859 00:46:06,580 --> 00:46:04,220 society that is so 860 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:06,590 dominate it by time I know that you're 861 00:46:11,770 --> 00:46:08,450 supposed to call me a certain time and I 862 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:11,780 better be here and I I'm counting on you 863 00:46:16,990 --> 00:46:14,090 calling me then etc but we don't really 864 00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:17,000 know what time is no we don't and if it 865 00:46:22,300 --> 00:46:19,280 originates right now we base everything 866 00:46:24,670 --> 00:46:22,310 on on the the the start of the universe 867 00:46:28,330 --> 00:46:24,680 right that was the start of time like 868 00:46:35,650 --> 00:46:28,340 that but but a half a second before the 869 00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:35,660 Big Bang time existed what does it mean 870 00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:38,240 half a second before the Big Bang well 871 00:46:44,980 --> 00:46:40,400 that's half a second before our universe 872 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:44,990 as we try to trace it back in time yeah 873 00:46:48,490 --> 00:46:47,930 so we have BC but if we had before the 874 00:46:51,220 --> 00:46:48,500 Big Bang 875 00:46:54,580 --> 00:46:51,230 that would be BBC and we already have 876 00:46:55,930 --> 00:46:54,590 that in London but but nonetheless and 877 00:47:00,339 --> 00:46:55,940 that was a good joke by the way that was 878 00:47:04,690 --> 00:47:00,349 pretty funny if we look at the expansion 879 00:47:08,260 --> 00:47:04,700 of the universe wouldn't it at some 880 00:47:11,710 --> 00:47:08,270 point get to the balancing point where 881 00:47:14,620 --> 00:47:11,720 it can no longer support the forces 882 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:14,630 pushing out and then it would contract 883 00:47:19,780 --> 00:47:15,890 you know you know what I mean it would 884 00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:19,790 just find its balance of size versus 885 00:47:26,349 --> 00:47:23,839 murder of a steady state universe yes 886 00:47:29,260 --> 00:47:26,359 where are all these they would approach 887 00:47:31,180 --> 00:47:29,270 some kind of steady state but again I 888 00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:31,190 was suggesting and I'm not saying I'm 889 00:47:34,420 --> 00:47:32,089 right about this 890 00:47:37,060 --> 00:47:34,430 but what if it impinges upon some other 891 00:47:39,849 --> 00:47:37,070 universe or some other pocket of 892 00:47:42,339 --> 00:47:39,859 something which is antithetical to it 893 00:47:44,589 --> 00:47:42,349 whether you on call the antimatter or 894 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:44,599 mirror matter or something else 895 00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:47,690 and it starts annihilating our being 896 00:47:54,339 --> 00:47:50,480 annihilated at that boundary that that 897 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:54,349 edge now staying in this concept with 898 00:47:59,079 --> 00:47:56,930 you know our universe you know say you 899 00:48:01,120 --> 00:47:59,089 and I are outside of our universe 900 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:01,130 looking in right we're just looking at 901 00:48:07,089 --> 00:48:03,650 this ball next to it now we have a 902 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:07,099 multiverse a concept which I fully 903 00:48:12,430 --> 00:48:10,010 believe that is is the case so you have 904 00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:12,440 got all these multiverses out there is 905 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:16,260 it possible that one universe could 906 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:20,250 and drift into another oh yeah so I 907 00:48:24,980 --> 00:48:22,530 think there's no doubt in fact there are 908 00:48:28,610 --> 00:48:24,990 suggestions that that has happened in 909 00:48:30,910 --> 00:48:28,620 that we have evidence of that so there's 910 00:48:33,650 --> 00:48:30,920 something notice that cosmic micro 911 00:48:37,220 --> 00:48:33,660 cosmic was a cosmic background micro 912 00:48:39,530 --> 00:48:37,230 microwave radiation that is generally 913 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:39,540 attributed to the beginning of the 914 00:48:44,510 --> 00:48:41,810 universe as we know it this is evidence 915 00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:44,520 supposedly for the Big Bang and tracing 916 00:48:50,090 --> 00:48:46,710 back at some leftover radiation from the 917 00:48:54,590 --> 00:48:50,100 Big Bang but right the heat exactly 918 00:48:55,790 --> 00:48:54,600 exactly but as I understand it and just 919 00:48:57,730 --> 00:48:55,800 looking at the day of some I'm a 920 00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:57,740 geophysicist not a theoretical 921 00:49:04,460 --> 00:48:58,890 cosmologists 922 00:49:08,510 --> 00:49:04,470 but bubbles in that in homogeneities in 923 00:49:11,390 --> 00:49:08,520 that etc have been interpreted as 924 00:49:14,380 --> 00:49:11,400 indicating that maybe places where our 925 00:49:18,170 --> 00:49:14,390 universe and hinges are impacts on other 926 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:18,180 universes or has in the past so we may 927 00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:22,170 have or we have evidence that can be 928 00:49:28,510 --> 00:49:25,110 interpreted I would say as evidence of 929 00:49:31,460 --> 00:49:28,520 other universes impacting us or 930 00:49:33,470 --> 00:49:31,470 overlapping with us that type of thing 931 00:49:36,350 --> 00:49:33,480 the second thing I want to suggest is 932 00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:36,360 think of our universe our universes in 933 00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:38,760 so many dimensions we'll think in three 934 00:49:43,310 --> 00:49:41,280 or four dimensions if you consider mat 935 00:49:46,340 --> 00:49:43,320 dimension but there could be a lot more 936 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:46,350 dimensions so you can have other 937 00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:49,770 universes and other dimensions that we 938 00:49:55,610 --> 00:49:53,040 don't perceive I'll try to paint a 939 00:49:57,950 --> 00:49:55,620 picture here if you think of a thin 940 00:49:59,900 --> 00:49:57,960 piece of wire and you put that as a 941 00:50:02,360 --> 00:49:59,910 circle and then you have another 942 00:50:04,550 --> 00:50:02,370 universes another thin piece of wire you 943 00:50:08,330 --> 00:50:04,560 could put one inside the other without 944 00:50:10,130 --> 00:50:08,340 them ever actually overlapping and then 945 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:10,140 at one point you may be disturbing them 946 00:50:15,530 --> 00:50:12,930 and they run into each other and 947 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:15,540 interact am I making any sense yeah that 948 00:50:18,980 --> 00:50:17,370 vibration would 949 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:18,990 yeah you might think of them as 950 00:50:23,140 --> 00:50:20,970 vibrating actually that's a good way to 951 00:50:25,970 --> 00:50:23,150 think of it a vibrating piece of 952 00:50:28,310 --> 00:50:25,980 circular wire and they're vibrating and 953 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:28,320 last they all get in each other's way 954 00:50:32,570 --> 00:50:30,210 they're fine but then they might start 955 00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:32,580 vibrating and they vibrate so much that 956 00:50:36,980 --> 00:50:34,950 they hit each other or maybe they set up 957 00:50:40,340 --> 00:50:36,990 a resonance between themselves again 958 00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:40,350 we're using analogies that we can try to 959 00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:44,160 wrap our heads around but I think they 960 00:50:49,550 --> 00:50:47,040 can be extrapolated up to that level 961 00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:49,560 it'd be like when you tangle up your 962 00:50:54,830 --> 00:50:53,040 slinky when you were a kid yeah yeah or 963 00:51:00,080 --> 00:50:54,840 you tangle up your slinky with someone 964 00:51:02,660 --> 00:51:00,090 else's slinky that's remember and then 965 00:51:04,370 --> 00:51:02,670 both are damaged irretrievably because 966 00:51:06,860 --> 00:51:04,380 you can never get those slinkys back 967 00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:06,870 just the way they used to be see that's 968 00:51:11,530 --> 00:51:08,880 why I think sometimes I could be a 969 00:51:17,870 --> 00:51:11,540 physicist because I can I can and 970 00:51:21,650 --> 00:51:17,880 introduce the slinky theory is just a 971 00:51:25,850 --> 00:51:21,660 slinky and we get tangled up with other 972 00:51:29,090 --> 00:51:25,860 slinkys and then both slinkys are bent 973 00:51:31,220 --> 00:51:29,100 up and a mess and you can't get them 974 00:51:32,690 --> 00:51:31,230 remember how once they got bent up you 975 00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:32,700 couldn't get them back in no proper 976 00:51:38,690 --> 00:51:35,040 shape no nope you could sit there all 977 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:38,700 day all you did was make it worse it 978 00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:40,890 never got better I never had an 979 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:44,400 untangled slinky I can go on the record 980 00:51:50,030 --> 00:51:46,770 and say that I've never untangled a 981 00:51:54,290 --> 00:51:50,040 slinky yeah remember how it would flip 982 00:51:57,380 --> 00:51:54,300 over on itself too as well right so you 983 00:51:59,660 --> 00:51:57,390 had that crazy twist in it and when he 984 00:52:03,980 --> 00:51:59,670 tried to get that kink out that twist it 985 00:52:06,740 --> 00:52:03,990 would just move up the slinky and I 986 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:06,750 think we're here on the radio developing 987 00:52:15,620 --> 00:52:09,330 a whole new cosmology you know what 988 00:52:17,540 --> 00:52:15,630 let's get let's get a deGrasse Tyson he 989 00:52:24,590 --> 00:52:17,550 would argue he would argue the anti 990 00:52:27,410 --> 00:52:24,600 sleeky he would just anti slinky so now 991 00:52:30,050 --> 00:52:27,420 actually this is a brilliant but this is 992 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:30,060 all really serious look at the big 993 00:52:33,470 --> 00:52:31,050 picture and I 994 00:52:35,390 --> 00:52:33,480 wasn't what I was saying we got off on 995 00:52:37,580 --> 00:52:35,400 slinkys but actually I think these are 996 00:52:39,830 --> 00:52:37,590 some good analogies and I think this is 997 00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:39,840 serious stuff to think about it is and 998 00:52:44,750 --> 00:52:43,440 what would I find amazing these days and 999 00:52:47,330 --> 00:52:44,760 I know you must get a lot of 1000 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:47,340 satisfaction out of this is that we have 1001 00:52:52,190 --> 00:52:50,130 our our community our community of 1002 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:52,200 thinkers that thinks outside of the box 1003 00:52:57,170 --> 00:52:55,410 our community and our audience and and 1004 00:53:00,830 --> 00:52:57,180 we're all here and supporting each other 1005 00:53:04,010 --> 00:53:00,840 but we were always fighting against the 1006 00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:04,020 man and science and schools and 1007 00:53:08,450 --> 00:53:06,720 universities right this this push and 1008 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:08,460 pull and you could feel it but today 1009 00:53:16,130 --> 00:53:12,290 Robert science and our community are 1010 00:53:20,420 --> 00:53:16,140 starting to overlap if things are 1011 00:53:25,450 --> 00:53:20,430 happening like well this study of the 1012 00:53:30,530 --> 00:53:25,460 Great Pyramid with electromagnetic waves 1013 00:53:34,010 --> 00:53:30,540 this this has been put out there by our 1014 00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:34,020 community for a few decades now going 1015 00:53:38,660 --> 00:53:37,260 back to the 70s and laying it out there 1016 00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:38,670 laying it out there laying it out there 1017 00:53:43,570 --> 00:53:41,280 everybody you know tinfoil hat you know 1018 00:53:47,390 --> 00:53:43,580 the craziness you guys are nuts 1019 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:47,400 it's just a tomb that's all it is it's a 1020 00:53:56,270 --> 00:53:51,770 pile of rocks and here today science is 1021 00:53:58,850 --> 00:53:56,280 this report was a game-changer what went 1022 00:54:00,260 --> 00:53:58,860 through your mind as oh well actually 1023 00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:00,270 I'll tell you what went through my mind 1024 00:54:05,690 --> 00:54:02,730 and I want to tell saying what we're 1025 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:05,700 talking about it was a report in the 1026 00:54:12,020 --> 00:54:09,050 Journal of Applied Physics and it's by 1027 00:54:13,610 --> 00:54:12,030 actually a group and I I hate to say it 1028 00:54:16,670 --> 00:54:13,620 this way but they're Russian group 1029 00:54:18,830 --> 00:54:16,680 they're from st. Petersburg which I've 1030 00:54:22,820 --> 00:54:18,840 had found I have found that a lot of my 1031 00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:22,830 European colleagues are much more should 1032 00:54:26,900 --> 00:54:25,110 we say open to certain things we can't 1033 00:54:29,660 --> 00:54:26,910 certain things right so I wasn't 1034 00:54:32,540 --> 00:54:29,670 surprised where it was coming from but 1035 00:54:35,660 --> 00:54:32,550 what they did is they did theoretical 1036 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:35,670 modeling of the Great Pyramid in terms 1037 00:54:39,970 --> 00:54:38,090 of how could it interact with 1038 00:54:43,820 --> 00:54:39,980 electromagnetic frequencies 1039 00:54:44,410 --> 00:54:43,830 electromagnetic properties energies that 1040 00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:44,420 type of 1041 00:54:51,519 --> 00:54:47,119 and lo and behold they found that it can 1042 00:54:53,609 --> 00:54:51,529 in fact I'll call funnel and channel if 1043 00:54:56,799 --> 00:54:53,619 you would electromagnetic energy 1044 00:54:59,370 --> 00:54:56,809 concentrated concentrated in the 1045 00:55:03,069 --> 00:54:59,380 chambers that you have in the pyramid 1046 00:55:05,890 --> 00:55:03,079 this is very very theoretical in the 1047 00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:05,900 sense that they were taking a model of 1048 00:55:11,859 --> 00:55:07,760 it when I say a model not even a 1049 00:55:14,370 --> 00:55:11,869 physical model but yell conceptual model 1050 00:55:17,769 --> 00:55:14,380 of it but applying very sophisticated 1051 00:55:20,349 --> 00:55:17,779 cutting-edge physics to it to see what 1052 00:55:23,849 --> 00:55:20,359 would come out theoretically and what 1053 00:55:27,009 --> 00:55:23,859 came out theoretically in my opinion 1054 00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:27,019 matches very much what as you said 1055 00:55:31,059 --> 00:55:28,609 people have been talking about and I 1056 00:55:33,870 --> 00:55:31,069 would say not going back to the 1970s 1057 00:55:37,660 --> 00:55:33,880 but even going back to the 19th century 1058 00:55:41,049 --> 00:55:37,670 where people were talking about these 1059 00:55:42,579 --> 00:55:41,059 types of phenomena in different types of 1060 00:55:45,789 --> 00:55:42,589 terms some people would talk about 1061 00:55:48,579 --> 00:55:45,799 pyramid power and all of that right but 1062 00:55:50,620 --> 00:55:48,589 there were examples of people going up 1063 00:55:53,650 --> 00:55:50,630 to the top of the Great Pyramid in the 1064 00:55:55,690 --> 00:55:53,660 19th century taking Leyden jars if you 1065 00:56:00,430 --> 00:55:55,700 know what that is it can actually 1066 00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:00,440 collect basically a charge from static 1067 00:56:05,529 --> 00:56:02,960 electricity that would build up on the 1068 00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:05,539 pyramid very crude way to do it but they 1069 00:56:09,999 --> 00:56:07,250 were doing this and finding that they 1070 00:56:12,519 --> 00:56:10,009 could collect electromagnetic energy 1071 00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:12,529 that was being concentrated by the Great 1072 00:56:21,819 --> 00:56:16,640 Pyramid and you know basically stored in 1073 00:56:24,220 --> 00:56:21,829 this capacitor type primitive light 1074 00:56:26,620 --> 00:56:24,230 light in jar and then you know release a 1075 00:56:29,529 --> 00:56:26,630 huge spark from it that type of thing so 1076 00:56:32,980 --> 00:56:29,539 you know demonstrating this conceptually 1077 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:32,990 so now that we have in the 21st century 1078 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:37,930 really outstanding studies by top-notch 1079 00:56:43,180 --> 00:56:40,130 physicists showing that yes the same 1080 00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:43,190 thing is theoretically possible 1081 00:56:48,220 --> 00:56:45,920 now they do say in the study that this 1082 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:48,230 needs more work but that's standard 1083 00:56:54,099 --> 00:56:50,930 science that's the way science goes one 1084 00:56:56,589 --> 00:56:54,109 thing that I found very interesting was 1085 00:56:57,830 --> 00:56:56,599 they talked about concentrating in the 1086 00:57:01,310 --> 00:56:57,840 Great Pyramid 1087 00:57:04,070 --> 00:57:01,320 and then being funneled down through it 1088 00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:04,080 into the subterranean chamber in 1089 00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:06,510 particular through the King's Chamber 1090 00:57:10,730 --> 00:57:08,310 the Grand Gallery and into the 1091 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:10,740 subterranean chamber which is deep 1092 00:57:16,850 --> 00:57:14,610 underground and something that a lot of 1093 00:57:18,970 --> 00:57:16,860 people have talked about with the Great 1094 00:57:23,860 --> 00:57:18,980 Pyramid and a lot of my academic 1095 00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:23,870 colleagues dismissed completely is that 1096 00:57:32,420 --> 00:57:29,040 there may be how should we say psychic 1097 00:57:34,030 --> 00:57:32,430 changes people talked about going into 1098 00:57:36,910 --> 00:57:34,040 different states of consciousness 1099 00:57:41,540 --> 00:57:36,920 altered states of consciousness having 1100 00:57:44,540 --> 00:57:41,550 psychic experiences in the Great Pyramid 1101 00:57:46,910 --> 00:57:44,550 and they don't say it in this study but 1102 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:46,920 I could not help but think as I read it 1103 00:57:54,890 --> 00:57:50,730 that this also supports and cooperates 1104 00:57:58,720 --> 00:57:54,900 those types of testimonies because you 1105 00:58:00,860 --> 00:57:58,730 because we are very much affected by 1106 00:58:03,850 --> 00:58:00,870 electromagnetic frequencies an 1107 00:58:08,330 --> 00:58:03,860 electromagnetic energy and 1108 00:58:12,170 --> 00:58:08,340 electromagnetic geomagnetic changes and 1109 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:12,180 something that you I hate to say it this 1110 00:58:18,770 --> 00:58:16,050 way but people who allow themselves to 1111 00:58:21,730 --> 00:58:18,780 be sensitive to such things I would 1112 00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:21,740 contend and I'll say from personal test 1113 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:24,240 testimony you can feel it in the Great 1114 00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:26,730 Pyramids right um and it's not just 1115 00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:29,760 nonsense but a lot of my academic 1116 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:32,310 colleagues of course dismiss all of this 1117 00:58:37,730 --> 00:58:35,370 now here we have a real paper by I'm 1118 00:58:39,590 --> 00:58:37,740 serious physicist as funny we were 1119 00:58:41,870 --> 00:58:39,600 talking about physics before with the 1120 00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:41,880 universe and the origin end of the 1121 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:44,400 universe or whatever but the same here 1122 00:58:50,780 --> 00:58:48,570 and you can show theoretically that this 1123 00:58:52,940 --> 00:58:50,790 is exactly what should be the case in 1124 00:58:56,810 --> 00:58:52,950 other studies have shown without a doubt 1125 00:59:00,730 --> 00:58:56,820 that we as humans and all biological 1126 00:59:03,350 --> 00:59:00,740 organisms are quite sensitive to 1127 00:59:10,180 --> 00:59:03,360 electromagnetic frequencies especially 1128 00:59:11,660 --> 00:59:10,190 in the low frequency long wavelength 1129 00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:11,670 ranges 1130 00:59:16,970 --> 00:59:14,240 and which they document here as well 1131 00:59:19,730 --> 00:59:16,980 let's tack let's take a break right here 1132 00:59:23,450 --> 00:59:19,740 it's a perfect spot to do it our guest 1133 00:59:26,539 --> 00:59:23,460 tonight is dr. Robert Schoch now we all 1134 00:59:29,450 --> 00:59:26,549 know Napoleon went into the great 1135 00:59:31,819 --> 00:59:29,460 pyramid came out a different man and so 1136 00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:31,829 did Robert Schoch but he won't tell me 1137 00:59:35,750 --> 00:59:32,400 about it 1138 00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:35,760 maybe he will after this break our guest 1139 00:59:38,930 --> 00:59:37,440 tonight dr. Robert I'm shocked this is 1140 00:59:40,830 --> 00:59:38,940 fade to black I'm yours to be Church 1141 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:40,840 stay with us we'll be right back 1142 00:59:58,900 --> 00:59:56,820 [Music] 1143 01:00:00,790 --> 00:59:58,910 this is fade to black 1144 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:00,800 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 1145 01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:04,490 radio network and K GRA the global radio 1146 01:00:11,830 --> 01:00:08,960 Alliance this is K GRA digital 1147 01:00:15,250 --> 01:00:11,840 broadcasting station Salt Lake City Utah 1148 01:00:17,350 --> 01:00:15,260 Van Buren Arkansas does your basement or 1149 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:17,360 crawlspace have a damp musty smell well 1150 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:19,130 watch out that's a sign of too much 1151 01:00:23,110 --> 01:00:21,290 moisture and not enough ventilation and 1152 01:00:24,820 --> 01:00:23,120 that can mean increased mold growth and 1153 01:00:26,590 --> 01:00:24,830 their build-up of harmful toxins 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1211 01:03:31,540 --> 01:03:29,660 all right welcome back fade to black 1212 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:31,550 I'm heroes Timmy Church our guest 1213 01:03:37,060 --> 01:03:35,690 tonight dr. Robert and shot the segment 1214 01:03:39,370 --> 01:03:37,070 of fade to black has proudly brought to 1215 01:03:42,850 --> 01:03:39,380 you by River moon coffee makers of the 1216 01:03:44,500 --> 01:03:42,860 fade to black blend promo code f to be 1217 01:03:47,140 --> 01:03:44,510 blended just go to the banners right 1218 01:03:49,180 --> 01:03:47,150 there Jimmy Church radio.com now dr. 1219 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:49,190 Schaack you and I have talked about this 1220 01:03:54,580 --> 01:03:52,370 over the years but for me and I don't 1221 01:03:58,180 --> 01:03:54,590 have all those letters that follow my 1222 01:04:02,530 --> 01:03:58,190 name that make me some academic but the 1223 01:04:05,650 --> 01:04:02,540 idea and the concept of force and and 1224 01:04:07,780 --> 01:04:05,660 and the rocks at the Great Pyramid being 1225 01:04:12,250 --> 01:04:07,790 stacked up on top of each other and then 1226 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:12,260 you combine granite and which is you 1227 01:04:17,950 --> 01:04:14,090 know five levels above the King's 1228 01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:17,960 Chamber surrounded the walls surrounding 1229 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:21,680 the King's Chamber the forces of granite 1230 01:04:29,230 --> 01:04:25,490 on top of each other has to conceptually 1231 01:04:33,730 --> 01:04:29,240 in my mind create energy this 1232 01:04:36,190 --> 01:04:33,740 eeehm study certainly suggests that and 1233 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:36,200 I think that that is great but when 1234 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:38,210 you're inside of the King's Chamber the 1235 01:04:44,050 --> 01:04:40,610 sheer weight and the energy that is 1236 01:04:47,740 --> 01:04:44,060 created from those forces above you has 1237 01:04:50,860 --> 01:04:47,750 to create something it just does and it 1238 01:04:53,230 --> 01:04:50,870 has to affect or have an effect you 1239 01:04:54,730 --> 01:04:53,240 spent the night you spent the night in 1240 01:04:57,850 --> 01:04:54,740 the King's Chamber you slept in the 1241 01:04:59,710 --> 01:04:57,860 sarcophagus we've talked about that you 1242 01:05:02,440 --> 01:04:59,720 won't reveal it maybe you will turn on 1243 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:02,450 the show but that's fine but your Iman 1244 01:05:12,010 --> 01:05:07,690 but but as you're reading this report 1245 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:12,020 you have your own experiences there and 1246 01:05:16,510 --> 01:05:14,930 it had to resonate with you this report 1247 01:05:20,020 --> 01:05:16,520 where you know that there's something 1248 01:05:22,210 --> 01:05:20,030 going on yeah absolutely absolutely and 1249 01:05:26,590 --> 01:05:22,220 this is a nice confirmation I think of 1250 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:26,600 what I and many people have realized 1251 01:05:31,510 --> 01:05:29,690 from being there and you mentioned I 1252 01:05:34,660 --> 01:05:31,520 think just as we were going into the 1253 01:05:37,180 --> 01:05:34,670 break about Napoleon Napoleon I am in 1254 01:05:39,839 --> 01:05:37,190 good company Napoleon never spoke about 1255 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:39,849 it I tend to be a 1256 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:42,130 a private person in some cases so no I'm 1257 01:05:48,029 --> 01:05:44,650 not going to talk about this but it can 1258 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:48,039 I put a plug in sure people should come 1259 01:05:54,180 --> 01:05:51,970 with me to Egypt in June 2019 and they 1260 01:05:55,859 --> 01:05:54,190 can at least get a they're not going to 1261 01:05:58,769 --> 01:05:55,869 spend the night in the Great Pyramid I 1262 01:06:01,140 --> 01:05:58,779 can't we're not going to do that but we 1263 01:06:03,469 --> 01:06:01,150 will be in the Great Pyramid we will go 1264 01:06:06,930 --> 01:06:03,479 to the King's Chamber we will explore it 1265 01:06:10,109 --> 01:06:06,940 we will get everyone we'll get the 1266 01:06:11,910 --> 01:06:10,119 opportunity to get a sense and feel for 1267 01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:11,920 it themselves so that's really the best 1268 01:06:18,930 --> 01:06:15,190 way to do it if people have the means 1269 01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:18,940 and the desire come join me in June 2019 1270 01:06:23,759 --> 01:06:21,910 I'm doing a public trip I do public 1271 01:06:26,329 --> 01:06:23,769 trips as you know sometimes there I also 1272 01:06:29,009 --> 01:06:26,339 of course go there for my own research 1273 01:06:31,219 --> 01:06:29,019 now all the information all the 1274 01:06:34,170 --> 01:06:31,229 information is at Robert Shaw comm 1275 01:06:39,180 --> 01:06:34,180 correct go to Robert Schoch comm and 1276 01:06:41,549 --> 01:06:39,190 then click on the Egypt trip banner and 1277 01:06:44,700 --> 01:06:41,559 this Egypt trip I want to be very clear 1278 01:06:48,269 --> 01:06:44,710 because I'm very excited about this this 1279 01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:48,279 is not me personally doing it yes I'm 1280 01:06:54,380 --> 01:06:51,609 leading or co-lead ant with another 1281 01:06:57,059 --> 01:06:54,390 colleague of mine it is for Oracle 1282 01:06:59,339 --> 01:06:57,069 organization for the research of ancient 1283 01:07:04,380 --> 01:06:59,349 cultures which is a nonprofit 1284 01:07:07,620 --> 01:07:04,390 organization that I helped co-found with 1285 01:07:11,370 --> 01:07:07,630 other colleagues and we are devoted to 1286 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:11,380 education and research into these 1287 01:07:17,359 --> 01:07:13,210 ancient I'll use the term ancient 1288 01:07:20,519 --> 01:07:17,369 mysteries in a genuine serious 1289 01:07:24,450 --> 01:07:20,529 evidence-based scientific way but also 1290 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:24,460 in an open box way if you would not the 1291 01:07:31,950 --> 01:07:28,210 conventional status quo academic way in 1292 01:07:33,870 --> 01:07:31,960 the bad sense but in the good sense of 1293 01:07:36,410 --> 01:07:33,880 following the evidence wherever it goes 1294 01:07:39,209 --> 01:07:36,420 and that evidence includes what 1295 01:07:41,759 --> 01:07:39,219 consistently people talk about and feel 1296 01:07:44,279 --> 01:07:41,769 that is evidence it may not be what some 1297 01:07:46,019 --> 01:07:44,289 academics one but that is genuine 1298 01:07:49,049 --> 01:07:46,029 evidence as far as I'm concerned when 1299 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:49,059 you have a consistent reaction of people 1300 01:07:53,650 --> 01:07:52,690 for instance to the King's Chamber or to 1301 01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:53,660 the subterranea 1302 01:07:59,770 --> 01:07:55,520 chamber and then game back to what we're 1303 01:08:03,099 --> 01:07:59,780 talking about now physical analysis and 1304 01:08:04,779 --> 01:08:03,109 physicist analyzing the structure of the 1305 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:04,789 Great Pyramid saying yes there is 1306 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:07,250 something to it in terms of the electro 1307 01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:09,890 magnetics and other studies that say yes 1308 01:08:15,579 --> 01:08:13,760 we are affected by such electromagnetic 1309 01:08:18,849 --> 01:08:15,589 phenomena and that does affect our 1310 01:08:21,220 --> 01:08:18,859 consciousness it does affect our states 1311 01:08:23,410 --> 01:08:21,230 of being our you know I hate to use the 1312 01:08:26,530 --> 01:08:23,420 term because it's overused but altered 1313 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:26,540 states of being that's right and when we 1314 01:08:31,900 --> 01:08:29,449 combine this I mean there's such a huge 1315 01:08:36,340 --> 01:08:31,910 pile of unanswered questions when it 1316 01:08:40,059 --> 01:08:36,350 comes to diese the construction getting 1317 01:08:43,269 --> 01:08:40,069 all of the red granite transported 500 1318 01:08:46,150 --> 01:08:43,279 miles you know yeah yeah for masculine 1319 01:08:49,990 --> 01:08:46,160 how they how they possibly quarried it 1320 01:08:52,030 --> 01:08:50,000 before the invention of steel their how 1321 01:08:54,789 --> 01:08:52,040 it got built how it got done in 20 years 1322 01:08:56,890 --> 01:08:54,799 all of those that there's that part of 1323 01:08:59,439 --> 01:08:56,900 it which seems nearly impossible but 1324 01:09:01,300 --> 01:08:59,449 then when you throw in if you are my 1325 01:09:06,010 --> 01:09:01,310 tour guide and I'm out there with you 1326 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:06,020 and I'm looking with me I will come in 1327 01:09:10,599 --> 01:09:08,810 June 2019 whoever wants to come I'm 1328 01:09:12,130 --> 01:09:10,609 their tour guide just to let you know 1329 01:09:16,570 --> 01:09:12,140 Rita and I are talking about it but 1330 01:09:19,269 --> 01:09:16,580 anyway ok so but I would have to throw 1331 01:09:23,169 --> 01:09:19,279 this now on top of the pile of 1332 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:23,179 unanswered questions which is how is it 1333 01:09:30,700 --> 01:09:27,170 possible that Stone Age man if this was 1334 01:09:32,650 --> 01:09:30,710 done at 3,000 BC how is it possible that 1335 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:32,660 Stone Age man could understand the 1336 01:09:37,780 --> 01:09:35,449 concepts of electromagnetic 1337 01:09:39,999 --> 01:09:37,790 concentration in certain chambers and 1338 01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:40,009 points inside of the pyramid aside from 1339 01:09:45,130 --> 01:09:41,600 everything else that we're dealing with 1340 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:45,140 with the construction of stuff on Giza 1341 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:47,810 how is it possible that they could have 1342 01:09:55,419 --> 01:09:50,290 this kind of knowledge that we are today 1343 01:09:58,330 --> 01:09:55,429 trying to understand but yet 5000 years 1344 01:10:02,979 --> 01:09:58,340 ago an ancient culture like this had a 1345 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:02,989 full grip on this type of physics well 1346 01:10:06,110 --> 01:10:04,730 you're making a couple of assumptions 1347 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:06,120 right 1348 01:10:10,580 --> 01:10:07,650 one of the assumptions is that they were 1349 01:10:12,620 --> 01:10:10,590 doing this 5,000 years ago versus maybe 1350 01:10:15,020 --> 01:10:12,630 it was goes back to a much earlier 1351 01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:15,030 period that's something you and I have 1352 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:17,760 certainly talked about before is and I 1353 01:10:21,860 --> 01:10:19,650 didn't start out this way but I'm 1354 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:21,870 absolutely now fully convinced that 1355 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:24,090 there was an earlier I called cycle of 1356 01:10:31,730 --> 01:10:27,770 civilization that the Sphinx is a 1357 01:10:33,370 --> 01:10:31,740 remnant of that goes back to the before 1358 01:10:36,290 --> 01:10:33,380 the end of the last ice age and I think 1359 01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:36,300 incredible sophistication and when we're 1360 01:10:39,650 --> 01:10:38,400 talking about the dynastic Egyptians and 1361 01:10:43,790 --> 01:10:39,660 this is something I will show evidence 1362 01:10:47,300 --> 01:10:43,800 of on site as we go through Egypt that 1363 01:10:51,020 --> 01:10:47,310 very much dynastic Egypt of four to five 1364 01:10:56,230 --> 01:10:51,030 thousand years ago included was a legacy 1365 01:10:59,060 --> 01:10:56,240 of a much earlier civilization and 1366 01:11:00,980 --> 01:10:59,070 remembrance if you would of some things 1367 01:11:03,790 --> 01:11:00,990 they knew so I think we have to push 1368 01:11:07,190 --> 01:11:03,800 some of this knowledge back much further 1369 01:11:10,460 --> 01:11:07,200 including I'm convinced that at least 1370 01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:10,470 portions of the Great Pyramid go back to 1371 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:12,810 that much earlier period and there's 1372 01:11:18,940 --> 01:11:15,330 lots of evidence for that on the ground 1373 01:11:22,010 --> 01:11:18,950 there's lots of evidence for that in the 1374 01:11:23,990 --> 01:11:22,020 ancient texts that the ancient Egyptians 1375 01:11:27,710 --> 01:11:24,000 talked about themselves they talked 1376 01:11:30,980 --> 01:11:27,720 about much earlier history the classical 1377 01:11:32,900 --> 01:11:30,990 Egyptologists of the 19th 20 20th and 1378 01:11:35,390 --> 01:11:32,910 21st centuries of course dismiss that 1379 01:11:37,010 --> 01:11:35,400 and say the ancient Egyptians didn't 1380 01:11:40,340 --> 01:11:37,020 know as much about their early history 1381 01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:40,350 as they the Egyptologists do today but 1382 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:44,400 they talked about having this long 1383 01:11:53,090 --> 01:11:49,290 period before 3,000 proximately 3000 BC 1384 01:11:55,070 --> 01:11:53,100 long before dynastic times this ties in 1385 01:11:58,250 --> 01:11:55,080 with my work on the Great Sphinx as we 1386 01:12:00,590 --> 01:11:58,260 have discussed numerous times it ties in 1387 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:00,600 with Robert Bauval my colleague Robert 1388 01:12:07,940 --> 01:12:05,090 Bauval and his Orion correlation of the 1389 01:12:10,340 --> 01:12:07,950 Great Pyramid the second pyramid and the 1390 01:12:14,090 --> 01:12:10,350 third pyramid with the belt of Orion but 1391 01:12:17,450 --> 01:12:14,100 not in 25 or 2600 BC but about 10 to 11 1392 01:12:19,819 --> 01:12:17,460 thousand BC so there's a lot of evidence 1393 01:12:21,739 --> 01:12:19,829 that there's a lot of different 1394 01:12:24,739 --> 01:12:21,749 going on different than what 1395 01:12:28,729 --> 01:12:24,749 conventional Egyptologists say Plateau 1396 01:12:33,109 --> 01:12:28,739 is it possible that that Boston 1397 01:12:35,149 --> 01:12:33,119 University will allow you to teach teach 1398 01:12:37,790 --> 01:12:35,159 these concepts and actually have a 1399 01:12:39,679 --> 01:12:37,800 course we are getting there we are 1400 01:12:43,310 --> 01:12:39,689 getting there it's very funny you ask 1401 01:12:47,109 --> 01:12:43,320 that I just I mean funny in the sense of 1402 01:12:50,509 --> 01:12:47,119 coincidental sure for the first time I 1403 01:12:55,129 --> 01:12:50,519 taught two I taught a course over the 1404 01:12:56,629 --> 01:12:55,139 summer and the title of it was and I was 1405 01:13:00,020 --> 01:12:56,639 asked to teach this I didn't solicit 1406 01:13:04,250 --> 01:13:00,030 well can I teach this I was asked by one 1407 01:13:06,349 --> 01:13:04,260 of the administrators that I've known 1408 01:13:09,919 --> 01:13:06,359 for a long time at Boston University and 1409 01:13:12,829 --> 01:13:09,929 faculty member administrator to teach a 1410 01:13:13,250 --> 01:13:12,839 course called mysteries of archaeology 1411 01:13:16,159 --> 01:13:13,260 Oh 1412 01:13:18,799 --> 01:13:16,169 lo and behold of course what do you 1413 01:13:21,259 --> 01:13:18,809 think I included I included a lot of the 1414 01:13:24,349 --> 01:13:21,269 types of things we're talking about and 1415 01:13:25,790 --> 01:13:24,359 I included you know genuine discussion 1416 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:25,800 of the evidence and where the 1417 01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:28,530 conventional views come up short and 1418 01:13:33,489 --> 01:13:30,510 what we don't know and what the 1419 01:13:37,969 --> 01:13:33,499 possibilities might be how to go over 1420 01:13:40,099 --> 01:13:37,979 very very well very well I mean students 1421 01:13:43,069 --> 01:13:40,109 I mean I think people are really looking 1422 01:13:44,359 --> 01:13:43,079 for this information you were and I try 1423 01:13:47,119 --> 01:13:44,369 to encourage the students to be 1424 01:13:49,699 --> 01:13:47,129 open-minded to look at the genuine 1425 01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:49,709 evidence I'm not trying to you know 1426 01:13:54,770 --> 01:13:52,530 substitute one dogma with another Dogma 1427 01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:54,780 or doctrine I'm saying look at the real 1428 01:14:01,879 --> 01:13:58,159 evidence let's put it into context and 1429 01:14:04,969 --> 01:14:01,889 see where it goes and when you do that 1430 01:14:08,029 --> 01:14:04,979 yes dynastic Egypt is dynastic Egypt and 1431 01:14:11,569 --> 01:14:08,039 I don't deny I nastic Egypt but there's 1432 01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:11,579 a lot more to it than just the 1433 01:14:16,669 --> 01:14:14,489 conventional view again you know 1434 01:14:19,399 --> 01:14:16,679 sometimes people misinterpret me and I'm 1435 01:14:23,049 --> 01:14:19,409 not the nine that there was Moses before 1436 01:14:27,709 --> 01:14:23,059 or you know the different ramasees or 1437 01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:27,719 the pharaoh Khufu but what I'm saying is 1438 01:14:33,380 --> 01:14:30,510 that in some cases they were adopting 1439 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:33,390 and reusing and refurbishing 1440 01:14:39,890 --> 01:14:36,690 building and civilization as a whole was 1441 01:14:43,700 --> 01:14:39,900 building on an earlier legacy and we 1442 01:14:47,060 --> 01:14:43,710 have the same thing in Europe you know 1443 01:14:48,890 --> 01:14:47,070 modern Europe in the last 500 years 1444 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:48,900 didn't pop out nowhere 1445 01:14:54,770 --> 01:14:52,890 you must have been in the zone that must 1446 01:14:57,290 --> 01:14:54,780 have been the funnest course for you to 1447 01:15:00,860 --> 01:14:57,300 finally oh yeah yeah I was fine it was 1448 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:00,870 interesting it was fun well now what 1449 01:15:06,860 --> 01:15:03,330 about so we're making little inroads 1450 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:06,870 even within academia so and okay so that 1451 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:08,970 was a summer course do you see the 1452 01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:12,810 possibility of this expanding you know 1453 01:15:17,330 --> 01:15:14,910 that's what I that's what I want to do I 1454 01:15:19,670 --> 01:15:17,340 would like to expand it I would like to 1455 01:15:22,340 --> 01:15:19,680 develop this further something else 1456 01:15:25,460 --> 01:15:22,350 which is in its very incipient stages 1457 01:15:28,820 --> 01:15:25,470 but again I want to build it up as I was 1458 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:28,830 allowed and it's really very small now 1459 01:15:32,810 --> 01:15:30,690 it's essentially mean I you know all 1460 01:15:36,410 --> 01:15:32,820 these things cost money etc and I don't 1461 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:36,420 want to sound the wrong way but I have 1462 01:15:43,700 --> 01:15:40,530 now been allowed to organize and put 1463 01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:43,710 together what is called which is no let 1464 01:15:48,670 --> 01:15:46,050 me just say the name the Institute for 1465 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:48,680 the Study of the origins of civilization 1466 01:15:54,770 --> 01:15:51,330 ISOC Institute for the Study of the 1467 01:15:56,810 --> 01:15:54,780 origins of civilization at Boston 1468 01:15:59,540 --> 01:15:56,820 University within my College the College 1469 01:16:01,490 --> 01:15:59,550 of general studies and it's very small 1470 01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:01,500 I'm the director of it but essentially 1471 01:16:08,900 --> 01:16:04,080 I'm directing myself if you would hold 1472 01:16:10,820 --> 01:16:08,910 is great news man yeah so it's I'm 1473 01:16:14,030 --> 01:16:10,830 starting to make inroads so between that 1474 01:16:18,260 --> 01:16:14,040 and I already mentioned Oracle which is 1475 01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:18,270 a independent nonprofit organization so 1476 01:16:25,070 --> 01:16:22,800 that money can be you know how should I 1477 01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:25,080 say what's the word I want donations can 1478 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:28,800 be made money can be raised as I said 1479 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:32,850 we're doing this trip in June 2019 which 1480 01:16:38,030 --> 01:16:34,770 gives people an opportunity to go to 1481 01:16:40,340 --> 01:16:38,040 Egypt with me it also helps Oracle not 1482 01:16:43,070 --> 01:16:40,350 in terms of fundraising so much but just 1483 01:16:45,820 --> 01:16:43,080 to get it off the ground and get it out 1484 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:45,830 there and status that type of thing well 1485 01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:48,170 reminds me I feel like we're trying to 1486 01:16:53,590 --> 01:16:51,040 make real inroads in a serious sense um 1487 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:53,600 not you know because you I'm an academic 1488 01:16:59,140 --> 01:16:56,690 I teach at a university Boston 1489 01:17:01,420 --> 01:16:59,150 University and so I can criticize my 1490 01:17:05,050 --> 01:17:01,430 fellow academics but also well work with 1491 01:17:07,300 --> 01:17:05,060 them and I want this to become both part 1492 01:17:08,980 --> 01:17:07,310 of the mainstream but not be sucked into 1493 01:17:11,890 --> 01:17:08,990 the mainstream and all of a sudden you 1494 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:11,900 know I go the other way we need to keep 1495 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:14,810 to the evidence and keep to what we're 1496 01:17:20,980 --> 01:17:18,410 doing but make that more accessible well 1497 01:17:23,140 --> 01:17:20,990 then but you have to prepare let's say 1498 01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:23,150 the course starts now you can get a 1499 01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:27,170 degree in Egyptology part two right okay 1500 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:39,110 whatever it is but there is the the one 1501 01:17:44,710 --> 01:17:40,970 question that you're going to have to 1502 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:44,720 prepare for the first day some student 1503 01:17:50,140 --> 01:17:47,210 is gonna raise their hand and go okay 1504 01:17:52,590 --> 01:17:50,150 professor all good all good but who 1505 01:17:56,020 --> 01:17:52,600 really built the pyramids and that 1506 01:17:58,110 --> 01:17:56,030 that's so I'm that student I raise my 1507 01:18:01,180 --> 01:17:58,120 hand 1508 01:18:05,290 --> 01:18:01,190 you know I say that's your research 1509 01:18:08,650 --> 01:18:05,300 project for the semester that's your 1510 01:18:10,390 --> 01:18:08,660 answer okay no no but I think what we 1511 01:18:13,180 --> 01:18:10,400 have to do and I think this is a very 1512 01:18:16,450 --> 01:18:13,190 important point you asked me who really 1513 01:18:20,230 --> 01:18:16,460 built the Great Pyramid I would say okay 1514 01:18:22,060 --> 01:18:20,240 just to put in context I believe based 1515 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:22,070 on the evidence whenever I say I believe 1516 01:18:26,050 --> 01:18:24,290 I'm not channeling it or anything like 1517 01:18:30,850 --> 01:18:26,060 that not putting channelers down but 1518 01:18:33,670 --> 01:18:30,860 that's not me right I think there's 1519 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:33,680 evidence for Khufu being involved with 1520 01:18:40,060 --> 01:18:37,010 the Great Pyramid Khufu or no snow Nall 1521 01:18:43,870 --> 01:18:40,070 so as Cheops the famous fourth dynasty 1522 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:43,880 pharaoh but that doesn't mean he built 1523 01:18:48,460 --> 01:18:45,890 it from scratch that doesn't mean he 1524 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:48,470 built it de novo I think he was involved 1525 01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:52,010 with it used it at some point you know 1526 01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:54,770 what I mean he's totally responsible for 1527 01:18:58,960 --> 01:18:56,930 it I think there are earlier stages to 1528 01:18:59,740 --> 01:18:58,970 it that go back to a much earlier period 1529 01:19:01,510 --> 01:18:59,750 I think 1530 01:19:04,570 --> 01:19:01,520 you know many of these things were being 1531 01:19:07,180 --> 01:19:04,580 reused Andrea propriate it and they go 1532 01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:07,190 back to this much earlier period now who 1533 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:08,210 are those people 1534 01:19:13,420 --> 01:19:11,570 I don't know precisely at this point and 1535 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:13,430 I think that's something we have to be 1536 01:19:19,480 --> 01:19:16,850 able to do is be honest in some cases 1537 01:19:23,770 --> 01:19:19,490 that we don't know the answers to 1538 01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:23,780 certain oh man search and discovery what 1539 01:19:27,850 --> 01:19:25,730 you know what I think Khufu had to do 1540 01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:27,860 with the Great Pyramid you can write 1541 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:29,600 this down too you can add this to the 1542 01:19:37,930 --> 01:19:31,850 curriculum he owned the janitorial 1543 01:19:42,070 --> 01:19:37,940 company the ground crew he was the 1544 01:19:45,010 --> 01:19:42,080 grounds crew but you know he might 1545 01:19:47,830 --> 01:19:45,020 actually agree with you and let me let 1546 01:19:48,910 --> 01:19:47,840 me put it this way the inventory spell 1547 01:19:51,190 --> 01:19:48,920 it there's something knows that 1548 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:51,200 inventory still I'm not making this up 1549 01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:53,930 and I can show if it's still on display 1550 01:19:59,380 --> 01:19:56,090 I'll show it to everyone when we go to 1551 01:20:00,940 --> 01:19:59,390 the Egyptian museums I not sure which 1552 01:20:02,980 --> 01:20:00,950 museum it's in at the moment because 1553 01:20:05,470 --> 01:20:02,990 they're moving things from the old 1554 01:20:07,630 --> 01:20:05,480 museum to the grand Egyptian Museum and 1555 01:20:09,370 --> 01:20:07,640 so some things may not be on display 1556 01:20:12,010 --> 01:20:09,380 anymore if not I'll show pictures of it 1557 01:20:15,250 --> 01:20:12,020 but it's a little Stella it's from the 1558 01:20:18,460 --> 01:20:15,260 late period but it purports and I think 1559 01:20:21,970 --> 01:20:18,470 it purports correctly to be a copy of a 1560 01:20:24,580 --> 01:20:21,980 much much earlier inscriptions in text 1561 01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:24,590 that go back to the Old Kingdom and 1562 01:20:31,210 --> 01:20:28,400 they're Khufu is recording recorded 1563 01:20:34,150 --> 01:20:31,220 basically as having taking care of these 1564 01:20:36,460 --> 01:20:34,160 older structures I'm Sur bastard I see 1565 01:20:38,740 --> 01:20:36,470 at the moment I'm simplifying it but 1566 01:20:41,290 --> 01:20:38,750 basically he was taking care of and 1567 01:20:44,950 --> 01:20:41,300 restoring older structures like the 1568 01:20:47,230 --> 01:20:44,960 Sphinx like the pyramids or the Great 1569 01:20:48,970 --> 01:20:47,240 Pyramid so in that sense maybe you 1570 01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:48,980 wouldn't want to calm the janitor but I 1571 01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:51,110 think many of them may have been proud 1572 01:20:57,780 --> 01:20:55,250 to be the caretakers of surf's ancient 1573 01:21:00,460 --> 01:20:57,790 sacred sites yeah maintenance crew 1574 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:00,470 maintenance crew exactly out there with 1575 01:21:08,290 --> 01:21:04,730 the weedeater you know yeah what do they 1576 01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:08,300 call those things that's been around 1577 01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:11,360 quickly yeah yeah yeah weedeater and 1578 01:21:16,209 --> 01:21:13,840 subways 1579 01:21:17,919 --> 01:21:16,219 yeah you know they had to clear out - 1580 01:21:19,540 --> 01:21:17,929 yeah right in the desert 1581 01:21:22,569 --> 01:21:19,550 yeah the desert because they get so many 1582 01:21:25,689 --> 01:21:22,579 weeds in the does they do the causeway 1583 01:21:28,350 --> 01:21:25,699 was inundated with with weeds so you 1584 01:21:32,109 --> 01:21:28,360 know you got to keep that pathway clean 1585 01:21:34,870 --> 01:21:32,119 you know and I say that in jest but not 1586 01:21:37,810 --> 01:21:34,880 really well no not really because when 1587 01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:37,820 you look at the grape any of those this 1588 01:21:43,629 --> 01:21:39,530 Fink's in particular but the great 1589 01:21:45,700 --> 01:21:43,639 pyramid etc if you don't brush away the 1590 01:21:49,529 --> 01:21:45,710 sand and whatnot you're on the edge of 1591 01:21:51,729 --> 01:21:49,539 the Sahara Desert if the sand piles up 1592 01:21:53,589 --> 01:21:51,739 in fact they do need constant 1593 01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:53,599 maintenance and that goes back to 1594 01:21:59,439 --> 01:21:56,690 ancient times when we say ancient times 1595 01:22:02,290 --> 01:21:59,449 that goes back to dynastic time so the 1596 01:22:04,390 --> 01:22:02,300 dynastic Egyptians record how they were 1597 01:22:07,209 --> 01:22:04,400 digging the Sphinx out of the sand they 1598 01:22:09,220 --> 01:22:07,219 record how they had to you know 1599 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:09,230 basically do cleaning on the Giza 1600 01:22:14,620 --> 01:22:11,690 Plateau to keep everything free of sand 1601 01:22:17,950 --> 01:22:14,630 now let's let's stay on the science side 1602 01:22:20,020 --> 01:22:17,960 of this we've got so much that we want 1603 01:22:22,689 --> 01:22:20,030 to discuss tonight I don't think we ever 1604 01:22:26,620 --> 01:22:22,699 left the science side do you no no I was 1605 01:22:29,950 --> 01:22:26,630 I could though so let's let's let's 1606 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:29,960 discuss this the MU on project and okay 1607 01:22:35,169 --> 01:22:32,449 and one of and we can you know continue 1608 01:22:38,770 --> 01:22:35,179 after the break but one of the things 1609 01:22:43,089 --> 01:22:38,780 about this that left a great taste in my 1610 01:22:44,979 --> 01:22:43,099 mouth was how Zahi Hawass has said over 1611 01:22:49,390 --> 01:22:44,989 and over again there's nothing to see 1612 01:22:53,319 --> 01:22:49,400 here and here this project clearly has 1613 01:22:55,799 --> 01:22:53,329 found a new chamber above the Grand 1614 01:23:00,009 --> 01:22:55,809 Gallery where there was supposed to be 1615 01:23:03,790 --> 01:23:00,019 nothing again the science is overlapping 1616 01:23:06,850 --> 01:23:03,800 our community isn't it Robert oh yeah 1617 01:23:08,890 --> 01:23:06,860 absolutely absolutely so so what we're 1618 01:23:11,919 --> 01:23:08,900 talking about just so everyone knows is 1619 01:23:15,489 --> 01:23:11,929 the MU ography or the MU on project it's 1620 01:23:18,609 --> 01:23:15,499 also known as scan pyramids and this is 1621 01:23:20,830 --> 01:23:18,619 a bunch of top-notch physicists again so 1622 01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:20,840 it's interesting how a lot of physics in 1623 01:23:26,690 --> 01:23:23,850 geophysics is being used 1624 01:23:29,210 --> 01:23:26,700 the plateau now this is something I why 1625 01:23:31,340 --> 01:23:29,220 I hate to say it this way but I feel 1626 01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:31,350 like I helped pioneer this back in the 1627 01:23:36,740 --> 01:23:34,290 1990s when with Thomas de Becky a 1628 01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:36,750 geophysicist we found a chamber under 1629 01:23:41,450 --> 01:23:39,450 the paw of the Sphinx and I want to come 1630 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:41,460 back to that because I think big analogy 1631 01:23:47,650 --> 01:23:45,090 here yes they're using mu ons mu ography 1632 01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:47,660 this is a skin pyramid project 1633 01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:53,730 consortium of French Japanese a big 1634 01:23:58,850 --> 01:23:55,970 Japanese contingent I think French 1635 01:24:02,510 --> 01:23:58,860 Canadians etc but really top-notch 1636 01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:02,520 physicists bring in incredible equipment 1637 01:24:07,490 --> 01:24:04,710 and what they're doing is setting up 1638 01:24:09,830 --> 01:24:07,500 detectors in and around the Great 1639 01:24:13,820 --> 01:24:09,840 Pyramid they've set up detectors to 1640 01:24:16,990 --> 01:24:13,830 capture mulan's so it's very similar to 1641 01:24:19,550 --> 01:24:17,000 what people knows x-rays mulan's are 1642 01:24:21,650 --> 01:24:19,560 essentially like electrons but much 1643 01:24:25,610 --> 01:24:21,660 heavier in much shorter half-life 1644 01:24:29,990 --> 01:24:25,620 half-life of millionths of a second they 1645 01:24:32,810 --> 01:24:30,000 the muons are produced in the atmosphere 1646 01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:32,820 from cosmic rays hitting different types 1647 01:24:38,810 --> 01:24:36,480 of atoms they basically break up that 1648 01:24:41,780 --> 01:24:38,820 and so hit the atoms they release 1649 01:24:44,930 --> 01:24:41,790 Mulan's in some cases that stream down 1650 01:24:46,820 --> 01:24:44,940 and we have mulan's going through us all 1651 01:24:48,740 --> 01:24:46,830 the time you and i and everyone that's 1652 01:24:50,540 --> 01:24:48,750 listening has muuns flowing through 1653 01:24:53,810 --> 01:24:50,550 their body they don't interact with 1654 01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:53,820 matter as we know it matter that we're 1655 01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:56,970 used to they have very very very low 1656 01:25:02,420 --> 01:25:00,000 interactions with that but when you have 1657 01:25:06,140 --> 01:25:02,430 something like the Great Pyramid with 1658 01:25:09,140 --> 01:25:06,150 all this stone work a few of the MU ones 1659 01:25:11,780 --> 01:25:09,150 do interact with the stone so this 1660 01:25:14,060 --> 01:25:11,790 nuance slowed down or they are 1661 01:25:16,820 --> 01:25:14,070 attenuated there's not as many mu ones 1662 01:25:19,460 --> 01:25:16,830 coming through where you have huge 1663 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:19,470 masses of stone so if you put in 1664 01:25:25,190 --> 01:25:21,930 detectors in and around the Great 1665 01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:25,200 Pyramid you can detect if there's some 1666 01:25:30,020 --> 01:25:28,170 places where more moons are flowing 1667 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:30,030 through that which show cavities that 1668 01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:32,010 would show empty chamber so that's 1669 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:33,570 exactly what they're doing that that 1670 01:25:37,740 --> 01:25:36,330 makes sense yes it does and what so it's 1671 01:25:39,870 --> 01:25:37,750 like an x-ray and 1672 01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:39,880 they have found and I have looked at all 1673 01:25:44,370 --> 01:25:41,770 the original data and read their 1674 01:25:46,830 --> 01:25:44,380 original papers and whatnot and I'm 1675 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:46,840 convinced it's really good data and a 1676 01:25:54,930 --> 01:25:49,810 very convincing case they have found a 1677 01:25:57,750 --> 01:25:54,940 huge chamber probably parallel or sub 1678 01:25:59,820 --> 01:25:57,760 parallel to the Grand Gallery above the 1679 01:26:02,340 --> 01:25:59,830 Grand Gallery so to put it in 1680 01:26:07,590 --> 01:26:02,350 perspective this is probably about 30 1681 01:26:09,810 --> 01:26:07,600 feet tall maybe 7 feet wide maybe a 1682 01:26:13,620 --> 01:26:09,820 hundred and fifty feet long so you're 1683 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:13,630 talking a major chamber paralleling the 1684 01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:15,970 Grand Gallery that's not supposed to be 1685 01:26:22,290 --> 01:26:19,450 there according to Egyptologists because 1686 01:26:24,210 --> 01:26:22,300 there there's more mulan's coming 1687 01:26:26,340 --> 01:26:24,220 through and you can detect it that way 1688 01:26:29,220 --> 01:26:26,350 and they've done it from several 1689 01:26:32,550 --> 01:26:29,230 different angles using several different 1690 01:26:35,010 --> 01:26:32,560 types of luan detectors etc they're all 1691 01:26:37,740 --> 01:26:35,020 saying the same thing so to me it's 1692 01:26:41,700 --> 01:26:37,750 really good data and really exciting and 1693 01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:41,710 then there it was a second chamber that 1694 01:26:47,610 --> 01:26:44,110 they found the smaller one on the North 1695 01:26:50,220 --> 01:26:47,620 Face yes my honor on the face near the 1696 01:26:53,250 --> 01:26:50,230 entrance near the known entrance serve 1697 01:26:55,830 --> 01:26:53,260 above it I wasn't surprised by that one 1698 01:26:57,420 --> 01:26:55,840 at all because architectural II it 1699 01:26:59,700 --> 01:26:57,430 always looked to me like there was 1700 01:27:02,880 --> 01:26:59,710 probably something up there in that 1701 01:27:06,540 --> 01:27:02,890 space and they seem to have detected 1702 01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:06,550 that also with the same technique also 1703 01:27:13,290 --> 01:27:08,800 they've done some thermal imaging which 1704 01:27:15,300 --> 01:27:13,300 seems to detect the same chamber that 1705 01:27:16,740 --> 01:27:15,310 there's something going on there so one 1706 01:27:19,530 --> 01:27:16,750 thing I would stress is you've got 1707 01:27:23,340 --> 01:27:19,540 multiple lines of evidence all detecting 1708 01:27:25,170 --> 01:27:23,350 these in the same spaces I also wanted 1709 01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:25,180 to mention I hate to sound I don't want 1710 01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:26,560 to sound the wrong way but you have a 1711 01:27:32,670 --> 01:27:29,650 bunch of Egyptologists like Zahi Hawass 1712 01:27:34,380 --> 01:27:32,680 and mark Lehner who are dismissing this 1713 01:27:36,510 --> 01:27:34,390 completely and saying that there's 1714 01:27:38,970 --> 01:27:36,520 nothing there or if there is anything 1715 01:27:41,370 --> 01:27:38,980 there is just a few little cavities 1716 01:27:44,220 --> 01:27:41,380 between the rocks I mean they're just 1717 01:27:47,220 --> 01:27:44,230 going crazy trying to dismiss it and 1718 01:27:48,870 --> 01:27:47,230 when I read their rebuttals in some 1719 01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:48,880 cases which are just made to the press 1720 01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:51,520 it's fairly evident to 1721 01:27:56,340 --> 01:27:53,920 they have not looked at the raw data or 1722 01:27:59,000 --> 01:27:56,350 if they have they haven't understood it 1723 01:28:03,600 --> 01:27:59,010 because some of the comments they make 1724 01:28:06,210 --> 01:28:03,610 seem to indicate it ignorant of the 1725 01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:06,220 subject matter shape do you and Mark 1726 01:28:13,290 --> 01:28:10,960 talk no I haven't seen I haven't no no 1727 01:28:15,300 --> 01:28:13,300 I'm not in a nasty sense I just haven't 1728 01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:15,310 run across him or seen him in years 1729 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:18,130 right so you guys are like decades now 1730 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:21,370 right right not going back so it's not 1731 01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:23,290 that no it's not like we've run into 1732 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:24,880 each other and refused to talk I 1733 01:28:29,910 --> 01:28:26,890 literally just haven't had any contact 1734 01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:29,920 with them it's that I haven't started 1735 01:28:37,140 --> 01:28:33,760 out either I can understand I've seen 1736 01:28:38,940 --> 01:28:37,150 Joe Hawass a number of times over the 1737 01:28:42,750 --> 01:28:38,950 last couple of decades 1738 01:28:44,670 --> 01:28:42,760 I'm not real recently but I was always 1739 01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:44,680 on much better terms with him 1740 01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:47,410 well I only bring it up because I've 1741 01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:48,970 only got about a minute before the break 1742 01:28:56,490 --> 01:28:52,930 that for Mark and for Zahi for them to 1743 01:29:00,090 --> 01:28:56,500 have stood their ground so firmly on 1744 01:29:03,060 --> 01:29:00,100 what the Great Pyramid could be you know 1745 01:29:05,220 --> 01:29:03,070 they've closed those doors if yes if 1746 01:29:07,530 --> 01:29:05,230 this this they're gonna have to 1747 01:29:11,070 --> 01:29:07,540 backpedal and that's yeah yeah it 1748 01:29:13,890 --> 01:29:11,080 becomes hard when you surf put so much 1749 01:29:17,370 --> 01:29:13,900 emphasis on one view when you've written 1750 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:17,380 so many books and articles for promoting 1751 01:29:22,350 --> 01:29:19,690 that one view and then you have data 1752 01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:22,360 that comes out that contradicts it I 1753 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:24,250 mean I understand where they're coming 1754 01:29:28,350 --> 01:29:26,890 from and I feel I don't know I was going 1755 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:28,360 to say I feel bad for him I don't feel 1756 01:29:35,700 --> 01:29:32,770 bad for them but you know they have a 1757 01:29:37,350 --> 01:29:35,710 lot of vested interest in the way they 1758 01:29:39,660 --> 01:29:37,360 see things they don't want to change 1759 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:39,670 let's take a break right here our guest 1760 01:29:43,980 --> 01:29:41,770 tonight dr. Robert M shot yeah I've 1761 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:43,990 always wondered by the way when I've 1762 01:29:47,940 --> 01:29:45,970 looked at that entrance on the North 1763 01:29:51,260 --> 01:29:47,950 Face that there is so much more 1764 01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:51,270 underneath those that first layer of 1765 01:29:55,620 --> 01:29:53,410 construction this is fade to black I'm 1766 01:29:56,799 --> 01:29:55,630 Merrill to be Church more with dr. 1767 01:30:01,120 --> 01:29:56,809 Schaack after this short 1768 01:30:01,130 --> 01:30:10,950 [Music] 1769 01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:14,130 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 1770 01:30:20,470 --> 01:30:18,170 you're listening to fade to black always 1771 01:30:23,290 --> 01:30:20,480 on the edge of the hottest alternative 1772 01:30:42,550 --> 01:30:23,300 talk chilly church with fade to black 1773 01:30:46,300 --> 01:30:42,560 stay GRA radio.com hurricanes 1774 01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:46,310 earthquakes wildfires this year we've 1775 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Robert Emms shot doing all 1838 01:34:06,750 --> 01:34:03,880 things Egypt tonight lots and lots of 1839 01:34:08,070 --> 01:34:06,760 breaking news out of Egypt the segment 1840 01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:08,080 of fade to black is proudly brought to 1841 01:34:13,530 --> 01:34:10,690 you by noon Anna emergency food storage 1842 01:34:15,270 --> 01:34:13,540 for you and your family click on the new 1843 01:34:17,010 --> 01:34:15,280 man in banners over to me church radio 1844 01:34:19,470 --> 01:34:17,020 calm use the promo code 1845 01:34:21,510 --> 01:34:19,480 Jimmy ten Jimmy ten will get you ten 1846 01:34:23,940 --> 01:34:21,520 percent off it'll get you free shipping 1847 01:34:25,890 --> 01:34:23,950 and will also get to every order over a 1848 01:34:28,860 --> 01:34:25,900 hundred dollars an autograph fade to 1849 01:34:32,820 --> 01:34:28,870 black t-shirt dr. Schaack do you have a 1850 01:34:36,210 --> 01:34:32,830 fade to black t-shirt no I don't know 1851 01:34:42,210 --> 01:34:36,220 Katie Katie has yours oh she has mine 1852 01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:42,220 okay yeah you need to be my wife you 1853 01:34:47,610 --> 01:34:44,890 need to go talk to Katie I could just 1854 01:34:49,140 --> 01:34:47,620 see you on the next Egypt or wearing a 1855 01:34:52,350 --> 01:34:49,150 faded black t-shirt because you're a 1856 01:34:56,460 --> 01:34:52,360 rock and roller and we have we got to 1857 01:34:58,260 --> 01:34:56,470 get that fixed the second Sphinx now you 1858 01:35:00,090 --> 01:34:58,270 know way way before we get to the second 1859 01:35:02,010 --> 01:35:00,100 Springs can I say one more thing sure 1860 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:02,020 because we were just talking about 1861 01:35:07,290 --> 01:35:04,330 through ography and that type of thing 1862 01:35:12,030 --> 01:35:07,300 so I found it very funny the physicists 1863 01:35:15,300 --> 01:35:12,040 described this this chamber this on the 1864 01:35:17,480 --> 01:35:15,310 chamber they found above the Grand 1865 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:17,490 Gallery and they described it very 1866 01:35:24,150 --> 01:35:20,890 matter-of-factly as a void a big void 1867 01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:24,160 when something's 150 feet long etc it is 1868 01:35:27,180 --> 01:35:26,290 a big void I think that's very 1869 01:35:29,970 --> 01:35:27,190 descriptive 1870 01:35:32,010 --> 01:35:29,980 then the Ministry of Antiquities and the 1871 01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:32,020 Egyptologists were all up in arms and 1872 01:35:40,650 --> 01:35:36,400 they said oh that's propaganda the what 1873 01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:40,660 what do you think it could be what I 1874 01:35:45,510 --> 01:35:42,880 mean by that is this it could it be like 1875 01:35:47,190 --> 01:35:45,520 an escape route for those that built the 1876 01:35:49,410 --> 01:35:47,200 room no I don't think you're talking 1877 01:35:51,480 --> 01:35:49,420 escape route because not when you're 1878 01:35:53,820 --> 01:35:51,490 talking something that big I think it 1879 01:35:56,310 --> 01:35:53,830 might be holding something it might be 1880 01:36:00,240 --> 01:35:56,320 holding records or something like that 1881 01:36:02,070 --> 01:36:00,250 not unlike the chamber under the pod the 1882 01:36:04,890 --> 01:36:02,080 Sphinx that we found and what I wanted 1883 01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:04,900 to say before the break as I said I want 1884 01:36:10,100 --> 01:36:07,170 to come back to this for just a second 1885 01:36:11,919 --> 01:36:10,110 I have incredible sympathy for what 1886 01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:11,929 they're going through now with the 1887 01:36:18,229 --> 01:36:16,110 Egyptologist denying the physics that 1888 01:36:20,060 --> 01:36:18,239 found this chamber and of course it 1889 01:36:22,189 --> 01:36:20,070 still has to be explored it would be 1890 01:36:25,250 --> 01:36:22,199 nice to drill into it and see what's 1891 01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:25,260 physically there etc do I expect that to 1892 01:36:30,530 --> 01:36:27,810 happen anytime soon not necessarily no 1893 01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:30,540 knowing how things go in Egypt but it's 1894 01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:32,010 being totally dismissed 1895 01:36:37,430 --> 01:36:34,560 they even though it's based on film I'm 1896 01:36:40,669 --> 01:36:37,440 sorry even though it's based on sound 1897 01:36:42,890 --> 01:36:40,679 physics and I experienced the same thing 1898 01:36:45,860 --> 01:36:42,900 when we found the chamber under the paw 1899 01:36:48,500 --> 01:36:45,870 of the Sphinx they dismissed that too 1900 01:36:50,450 --> 01:36:48,510 and basically put a squelch on their 1901 01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:50,460 research and said this was propaganda 1902 01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:53,370 it's stealing Egypt from the Egyptians 1903 01:37:00,310 --> 01:36:55,050 they're doing the same thing with this 1904 01:37:02,810 --> 01:37:00,320 so there's this weird resistance to to 1905 01:37:05,660 --> 01:37:02,820 developing new theories new evidence 1906 01:37:08,030 --> 01:37:05,670 well they're talking about doing the 1907 01:37:11,890 --> 01:37:08,040 gate and brink model you know they're 1908 01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:11,900 talking about now bill you know putting 1909 01:37:19,130 --> 01:37:16,610 yeah for this though there's no no 1910 01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:19,140 passages that go up to it that anyone 1911 01:37:22,939 --> 01:37:21,210 knows at this point I was gonna ask you 1912 01:37:29,150 --> 01:37:22,949 about that at the top of the Grand 1913 01:37:30,919 --> 01:37:29,160 Gallery where have you looked up yes I 1914 01:37:32,930 --> 01:37:30,929 know what you're talking about but 1915 01:37:38,180 --> 01:37:32,940 there's no evidence that this goes into 1916 01:37:42,650 --> 01:37:38,190 that what was just found you don't know 1917 01:37:44,750 --> 01:37:42,660 no you don't and I need your academic 1918 01:37:45,740 --> 01:37:44,760 eyeballs you know up there at the top of 1919 01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:45,750 the stairs 1920 01:37:51,130 --> 01:37:47,250 you know the entrance into the King's 1921 01:37:55,370 --> 01:37:51,140 Chamber and kind of the possibility of 1922 01:37:57,020 --> 01:37:55,380 something blocking a tunnel going into I 1923 01:37:58,610 --> 01:37:57,030 mean way out because you know when you 1924 01:38:02,030 --> 01:37:58,620 go into the King's Chamber there are 1925 01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:02,040 some blocks that looks fairly loose that 1926 01:38:07,970 --> 01:38:05,610 type of thing well you tell me I mean 1927 01:38:10,689 --> 01:38:07,980 you've been there do you think that that 1928 01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:10,699 there is a possibility of getting into 1929 01:38:17,030 --> 01:38:14,130 this newly discovered chamber not not 1930 01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:17,040 probably not from there because of the 1931 01:38:20,990 --> 01:38:19,770 positioning of it that type of thing and 1932 01:38:23,330 --> 01:38:21,000 I've been up in 1933 01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:23,340 to the so called relieving chambers or 1934 01:38:28,580 --> 01:38:25,290 relief chambers or chambers of 1935 01:38:31,130 --> 01:38:28,590 construction above the King's Chamber I 1936 01:38:34,430 --> 01:38:31,140 don't know many people have been up 1937 01:38:38,450 --> 01:38:34,440 there but I'm one of them and I saw no 1938 01:38:41,510 --> 01:38:38,460 way to go from that into this new big 1939 01:38:43,910 --> 01:38:41,520 void as they call it so it may be 1940 01:38:46,490 --> 01:38:43,920 totally sealed off but we just don't 1941 01:38:49,100 --> 01:38:46,500 know for certain it really is going to 1942 01:38:51,980 --> 01:38:49,110 take more study and there's the problem 1943 01:38:54,140 --> 01:38:51,990 will the Egyptian authorities allow that 1944 01:38:57,830 --> 01:38:54,150 study to continue I don't know now I 1945 01:39:01,280 --> 01:38:57,840 heard a rumor I want to run this past 1946 01:39:07,310 --> 01:39:01,290 you that there was a period of a couple 1947 01:39:08,990 --> 01:39:07,320 of months where they had some tents set 1948 01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:09,000 up and some trucks outside of the 1949 01:39:15,470 --> 01:39:11,040 entrance of the grant the Great Pyramid 1950 01:39:19,490 --> 01:39:15,480 and that they were they they gained 1951 01:39:22,910 --> 01:39:19,500 access to the chamber removed the stuff 1952 01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:22,920 that they found and it will be part of 1953 01:39:28,490 --> 01:39:26,850 the new grand museum's opening well what 1954 01:39:30,650 --> 01:39:28,500 chamber you're talking about the new 1955 01:39:32,780 --> 01:39:30,660 chamber above the Grand Gallery that 1956 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:32,790 they actually go no no no they didn't 1957 01:39:37,610 --> 01:39:35,370 get into that what does timber best of 1958 01:39:39,770 --> 01:39:37,620 my knowledge those tents and trucks and 1959 01:39:44,990 --> 01:39:39,780 whatnot right that was that was some 1960 01:39:46,790 --> 01:39:45,000 thermal imaging instruments that the 1961 01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:46,800 physicists we were talking about the 1962 01:39:52,610 --> 01:39:49,770 scan pyramids physicists were using to 1963 01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:52,620 do thermal imaging of the Great Pyramid 1964 01:39:59,950 --> 01:39:56,610 because what you have is that the Great 1965 01:40:02,660 --> 01:39:59,960 Pyramid heats up and cooled them between 1966 01:40:05,990 --> 01:40:02,670 you know the daylight hours in the 1967 01:40:08,630 --> 01:40:06,000 nighttime hours etc but different rocks 1968 01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:08,640 absorb in a mid heat in different 1969 01:40:13,730 --> 01:40:11,250 amounts and also they cooled down in 1970 01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:13,740 different ways and they will cool down 1971 01:40:18,380 --> 01:40:16,410 quicker or slower depending not just on 1972 01:40:21,410 --> 01:40:18,390 the rock type but if there's cavities 1973 01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:21,420 behind them and in found fact they found 1974 01:40:27,260 --> 01:40:24,890 what may be some cavities that way or 1975 01:40:30,620 --> 01:40:27,270 chambers whatever you want to call it 1976 01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:30,630 using that type of thermal imaging I 1977 01:40:33,780 --> 01:40:32,370 mean I saw that they were there that's 1978 01:40:38,030 --> 01:40:33,790 what they were doing there 1979 01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:38,040 so you don't think there is a 1980 01:40:43,980 --> 01:40:41,050 possibility that for the grand opening 1981 01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:43,990 they just do this huge reveal oh by the 1982 01:40:51,900 --> 01:40:46,930 way no no I actually don't 1983 01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:51,910 I mean is it remotely possible one you 1984 01:40:58,110 --> 01:40:54,010 know point zero zero zero one percent 1985 01:41:01,980 --> 01:40:58,120 probability but no I don't think so 1986 01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:01,990 partly I don't think yeah to try to move 1987 01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:04,480 anything around in Egypt to try to go 1988 01:41:11,820 --> 01:41:07,930 into something like that without anyone 1989 01:41:14,940 --> 01:41:11,830 detecting it without anyone leaking that 1990 01:41:17,930 --> 01:41:14,950 type of thing you know between security 1991 01:41:22,470 --> 01:41:17,940 between the practical aspects of it the 1992 01:41:24,300 --> 01:41:22,480 keeping everyone quiet it's not 1993 01:41:28,050 --> 01:41:24,310 realistic I don't think that they 1994 01:41:31,980 --> 01:41:28,060 they've been able to do that now and 1995 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:31,990 staying on this we have the new museum 1996 01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:33,730 which is going to open up in November 1997 01:41:39,900 --> 01:41:36,130 yeah and this is a grand Egyptian Museum 1998 01:41:42,090 --> 01:41:39,910 and this is on site at Giza great for 1999 01:41:45,300 --> 01:41:42,100 job it's about it's a couple of 2000 01:41:48,450 --> 01:41:45,310 kilometers basically north of the 2001 01:41:50,730 --> 01:41:48,460 pyramids you and I were talking over the 2002 01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:50,740 phone privately and I'll describe it now 2003 01:41:55,530 --> 01:41:52,960 they among other things are going to 2004 01:41:58,950 --> 01:41:55,540 have a big sort of a big picture window 2005 01:42:01,470 --> 01:41:58,960 view of the pyramids from the grand 2006 01:42:05,220 --> 01:42:01,480 Egyptian Museum Katie and I had the 2007 01:42:07,260 --> 01:42:05,230 opportunity to visit it while it's you 2008 01:42:10,410 --> 01:42:07,270 know it's still under construction and 2009 01:42:13,380 --> 01:42:10,420 we saw parts of it not so much the 2010 01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:13,390 exhibit areas but the first thing they 2011 01:42:18,350 --> 01:42:15,760 completed we're the conservation areas 2012 01:42:20,940 --> 01:42:18,360 because they're bringing statues and 2013 01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:20,950 artifacts and that type of thing into 2014 01:42:24,750 --> 01:42:22,690 the museum so the first thing they have 2015 01:42:27,870 --> 01:42:24,760 to do is take care of them preserve them 2016 01:42:30,750 --> 01:42:27,880 conserve them before they actually put 2017 01:42:32,820 --> 01:42:30,760 them on display but there I want to say 2018 01:42:35,100 --> 01:42:32,830 the whole museum's costing hundreds of 2019 01:42:37,710 --> 01:42:35,110 millions maybe half a billion dollars I 2020 01:42:39,350 --> 01:42:37,720 mean this is a major project what are 2021 01:42:42,270 --> 01:42:39,360 they going to do with the old museum I 2022 01:42:44,810 --> 01:42:42,280 don't know I don't know I hope that they 2023 01:42:47,310 --> 01:42:44,820 preserve it because it's a beautiful 2024 01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:47,320 architectural 2025 01:42:51,970 --> 01:42:49,970 no building you know so it's a it's a 2026 01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:51,980 masterpiece in its own right it's not 2027 01:42:57,310 --> 01:42:54,410 what we expect what people expect of a 2028 01:42:59,860 --> 01:42:57,320 museum nowadays I personally hope that 2029 01:43:04,120 --> 01:42:59,870 they keep it open with just a few pieces 2030 01:43:06,220 --> 01:43:04,130 on display and the classic traditional 2031 01:43:09,460 --> 01:43:06,230 setting and if they don't I'll miss it 2032 01:43:11,740 --> 01:43:09,470 it's to be that's the Cairo Museum the 2033 01:43:14,350 --> 01:43:11,750 Egyptian Museum in Cairo but the grand 2034 01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:14,360 Egyptian Museum I think the new one is 2035 01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:16,130 going to be magnificent 2036 01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:19,970 now this second Sphinx you and I have 2037 01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:22,850 done a couple of shows about this in the 2038 01:43:27,780 --> 01:43:24,770 past and the fourth pyramid we've 2039 01:43:30,729 --> 01:43:27,790 discussed this a lot this news broke 2040 01:43:34,300 --> 01:43:30,739 last week in the week before that a 2041 01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:34,310 second Sphinx was discovered I want to I 2042 01:43:40,510 --> 01:43:36,650 need you to help me clarify what's going 2043 01:43:44,500 --> 01:43:40,520 on they this is now Luxor they're 2044 01:43:47,380 --> 01:43:44,510 talking about and not as Fink's on Giza 2045 01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:47,390 which is yeah and talked about a lot you 2046 01:43:52,810 --> 01:43:50,330 know there's so much talk about second 2047 01:43:55,540 --> 01:43:52,820 sphinxes and i have lived through 2048 01:43:57,910 --> 01:43:55,550 decades of second sphinxes as I was 2049 01:43:59,680 --> 01:43:57,920 reflecting on this since you and I 2050 01:44:03,690 --> 01:43:59,690 talked privately on the phone a couple 2051 01:44:05,860 --> 01:44:03,700 of days ago before this radio show I 2052 01:44:09,340 --> 01:44:05,870 remember people coming out with the 2053 01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:09,350 seconds fix on the Giza Plateau several 2054 01:44:14,610 --> 01:44:12,050 different times I've been shown by I 2055 01:44:18,250 --> 01:44:14,620 don't even one name the name by the 2056 01:44:20,500 --> 01:44:18,260 Egyptian Egyptologist had he showed me 2057 01:44:21,430 --> 01:44:20,510 one area on the plateau I'll get to 2058 01:44:24,010 --> 01:44:21,440 Luxor a minute 2059 01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:24,020 he showed me one area on the plateau he 2060 01:44:28,810 --> 01:44:26,210 said oh this is the second Sphinx and 2061 01:44:30,340 --> 01:44:28,820 I'm not convinced that of it at all he 2062 01:44:33,100 --> 01:44:30,350 said well you can't really see it 2063 01:44:35,979 --> 01:44:33,110 anymore because it's been read and 2064 01:44:38,620 --> 01:44:35,989 modified and turned into tombs that sort 2065 01:44:40,780 --> 01:44:38,630 of west and south of the Sphinx and 2066 01:44:43,060 --> 01:44:40,790 there's another place where someone else 2067 01:44:44,910 --> 01:44:43,070 claims there's a sphinx sort of north 2068 01:44:48,550 --> 01:44:44,920 and west of the Sphinx on the plateau 2069 01:44:50,950 --> 01:44:48,560 I'm not convinced of that a lot of the 2070 01:44:54,850 --> 01:44:50,960 discussion of the second Sphinx is 2071 01:44:56,650 --> 01:44:54,860 because the stela between the paws of 2072 01:44:59,320 --> 01:44:56,660 the Sphinx and I will show this to 2073 01:45:00,279 --> 01:44:59,330 everyone who goes to Egypt with me will 2074 01:45:03,189 --> 01:45:00,289 see it 2075 01:45:07,089 --> 01:45:03,199 on site there's this big grin at Stella 2076 01:45:09,839 --> 01:45:07,099 between the paws of the Sphinx that was 2077 01:45:14,770 --> 01:45:09,849 erected by top Moses the fourth about 2078 01:45:17,740 --> 01:45:14,780 1400 BC when he dug out what he 2079 01:45:20,410 --> 01:45:17,750 considered a very ancient Sphinx he dug 2080 01:45:22,779 --> 01:45:20,420 it out the sand at that time as he 2081 01:45:25,990 --> 01:45:22,789 recourse the Sphinx was buried in sand 2082 01:45:29,620 --> 01:45:26,000 up to its neck he dug it out 2083 01:45:32,350 --> 01:45:29,630 he put this Stella this big granite 2084 01:45:35,140 --> 01:45:32,360 carving with hieroglyphic inscriptions 2085 01:45:38,350 --> 01:45:35,150 all over it between the paws of the 2086 01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:38,360 Sphinx and on it he shows not one Sphinx 2087 01:45:44,229 --> 01:45:42,050 but two sinks is so ever since then 2088 01:45:46,209 --> 01:45:44,239 everyone's looking for the second Sphinx 2089 01:45:48,029 --> 01:45:46,219 because if there's two sphinxes on the 2090 01:45:51,279 --> 01:45:48,039 stela between the paws of the Sphinx 2091 01:45:55,089 --> 01:45:51,289 people figure well there must be the 2092 01:45:57,490 --> 01:45:55,099 Great Sphinx and another Sphinx so what 2093 01:46:01,149 --> 01:45:57,500 came out recently in the news was a 2094 01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:01,159 quote second Sphinx in Luxor which is 2095 01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:05,210 you know way down south up the Nile 2096 01:46:11,229 --> 01:46:07,489 because the Nile flows from south to 2097 01:46:14,259 --> 01:46:11,239 north so way down south and Luxor the 2098 01:46:16,899 --> 01:46:14,269 problem is that this quotes second 2099 01:46:18,700 --> 01:46:16,909 Sphinx is about maybe not the second 2100 01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:18,710 Sphinx not for third Sphinx not the 2101 01:46:24,220 --> 01:46:20,719 fourth things from my perspective but 2102 01:46:26,589 --> 01:46:24,230 maybe Sphinx number 375 or who knows 2103 01:46:30,339 --> 01:46:26,599 what because there are things this all 2104 01:46:33,009 --> 01:46:30,349 over Luxor and I actually looked it up 2105 01:46:34,779 --> 01:46:33,019 and I looked at looked at the links that 2106 01:46:38,589 --> 01:46:34,789 you and I discussed I looked up some 2107 01:46:41,709 --> 01:46:38,599 other research on it and it's exactly 2108 01:46:44,770 --> 01:46:41,719 where I would expect another Sphinx to 2109 01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:44,780 be found it's just a big monolithic 2110 01:46:49,629 --> 01:46:48,110 statue of a sphinx maybe 26 feet long I 2111 01:46:52,990 --> 01:46:49,639 think in this case the one they're 2112 01:46:56,740 --> 01:46:53,000 talking about but 26 feet is nothing 2113 01:47:00,370 --> 01:46:56,750 compared to you know 240 feet or 2114 01:47:02,859 --> 01:47:00,380 whatever for the Great Sphinx and it 2115 01:47:04,540 --> 01:47:02,869 luxord they were carving sphinxes all 2116 01:47:08,049 --> 01:47:04,550 over the place because they had an 2117 01:47:11,589 --> 01:47:08,059 avenue from what's now known as luxor 2118 01:47:13,610 --> 01:47:11,599 temple to karnak temple you know several 2119 01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:13,620 kilometers and that 2120 01:47:18,290 --> 01:47:16,410 was lined with sphinxes on either side 2121 01:47:20,810 --> 01:47:18,300 so they find sphinxes all the time 2122 01:47:24,820 --> 01:47:20,820 whenever they you know build broach in 2123 01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:24,830 that area why why take it to this level 2124 01:47:29,750 --> 01:47:27,810 second Sphinx because second Sphinx only 2125 01:47:32,060 --> 01:47:29,760 means one thing to you and I in the rest 2126 01:47:35,690 --> 01:47:32,070 of the community that's exactly it so 2127 01:47:39,140 --> 01:47:35,700 here's my theory and it's not it I don't 2128 01:47:42,260 --> 01:47:39,150 mean to be nasty but when people say 2129 01:47:46,100 --> 01:47:42,270 second Sphinx if they release a news 2130 01:47:48,050 --> 01:47:46,110 article or announcement about a second 2131 01:47:51,020 --> 01:47:48,060 Sphinx they know that we're going to 2132 01:47:54,830 --> 01:47:51,030 talk about on the radio because second 2133 01:47:58,370 --> 01:47:54,840 things to us means a compliment to the 2134 01:48:02,480 --> 01:47:58,380 great sphinx another sphinx the size of 2135 01:48:04,970 --> 01:48:02,490 this great sphinx oh you know basically 2136 01:48:06,410 --> 01:48:04,980 a companion to the great sphinx we're 2137 01:48:08,780 --> 01:48:06,420 not thinking about something that's 2138 01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:08,790 maybe 20 or 30 feet long we're thinking 2139 01:48:14,980 --> 01:48:10,650 of something that's hundreds of feet 2140 01:48:18,230 --> 01:48:14,990 long so it's serve what did they say 2141 01:48:20,870 --> 01:48:18,240 well to be an advertising you you I'm 2142 01:48:22,730 --> 01:48:20,880 switchin bait bait and switch no be nice 2143 01:48:24,620 --> 01:48:22,740 maybe switch because yeah yeah so they 2144 01:48:26,830 --> 01:48:24,630 say second Sphinx well it's not the 2145 01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:26,840 second Sphinx it's number Sphinx number 2146 01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:29,250 375 is I would say I'm just making up 2147 01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:31,410 that number but they got your attention 2148 01:48:37,130 --> 01:48:34,770 and they want your attention and then I 2149 01:48:38,870 --> 01:48:37,140 was reading one article and it even said 2150 01:48:41,780 --> 01:48:38,880 well the authorities haven't released a 2151 01:48:45,110 --> 01:48:41,790 photograph of it but they encourage 2152 01:48:47,660 --> 01:48:45,120 tourists to come and visit Luxor and see 2153 01:48:50,150 --> 01:48:47,670 it for themselves well what is this 2154 01:48:53,540 --> 01:48:50,160 saying they want tourism they want you 2155 01:48:58,150 --> 01:48:53,550 to help the Egyptian economy to be clear 2156 01:49:02,420 --> 01:48:58,160 the Great Sphinx was carved of the earth 2157 01:49:07,010 --> 01:49:02,430 that's right bedrock living rock food it 2158 01:49:10,790 --> 01:49:07,020 is still attached still attached and so 2159 01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:10,800 the this second Sphinx that is in the 2160 01:49:17,180 --> 01:49:12,090 news right now 2161 01:49:19,340 --> 01:49:17,190 luck is or is portable oh yeah yeah I 2162 01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:19,350 mean it weighs what tens of tons I don't 2163 01:49:24,710 --> 01:49:22,800 know how much it weighs but it's 2164 01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:24,720 portable it's a portable swings it's a 2165 01:49:29,750 --> 01:49:25,770 pockets famous 2166 01:49:34,220 --> 01:49:29,760 they're to the great things and why okay 2167 01:49:35,900 --> 01:49:34,230 so it's not let's be very clear it's 2168 01:49:38,300 --> 01:49:35,910 kind of like talking about the Bosnian 2169 01:49:44,780 --> 01:49:38,310 pyramids I need you to be very clear 2170 01:49:46,790 --> 01:49:44,790 here Robert no no I'll be blunt 2171 01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:46,800 you know you'd like me to be honest 2172 01:49:50,390 --> 01:49:48,210 that's what I'm saying let's be it 2173 01:49:52,250 --> 01:49:50,400 doesn't matter I'm not going to be 2174 01:49:53,110 --> 01:49:52,260 dishonest anyway whether you like it or 2175 01:49:55,610 --> 01:49:53,120 not 2176 01:49:59,090 --> 01:49:55,620 Bosnian pyramids are nonsense they're 2177 01:50:01,880 --> 01:49:59,100 they're a modern fake this is not a 2178 01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:01,890 modern fake but it's not the Great 2179 01:50:07,730 --> 01:50:04,290 Sphinx it's just another ancient things 2180 01:50:09,740 --> 01:50:07,740 from about 3,000 plus years ago it's not 2181 01:50:14,180 --> 01:50:09,750 even as old as the Great Sphinx it's 2182 01:50:18,140 --> 01:50:14,190 much smaller and it's it's nice I might 2183 01:50:21,380 --> 01:50:18,150 love to have a mansion and have it in my 2184 01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:21,390 garden but it's not the Great Sphinx so 2185 01:50:27,590 --> 01:50:22,170 let's 2186 01:50:30,140 --> 01:50:27,600 Sphinx being discovered in Luxor theory 2187 01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:30,150 or suggestion okay but let's move yeah 2188 01:50:35,450 --> 01:50:33,090 yeah it's a Sphinx that was discovered 2189 01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:35,460 in Luxor you find a lot of things in 2190 01:50:41,510 --> 01:50:39,290 Luxor and Luxor is beautiful people I 2191 01:50:44,570 --> 01:50:41,520 don't want to sound the wrong way but on 2192 01:50:47,330 --> 01:50:44,580 the trips I take people on we go and we 2193 01:50:50,810 --> 01:50:47,340 visit Luxor we see luxor temple we see 2194 01:50:52,790 --> 01:50:50,820 karnak temple we see the avenues Fink's 2195 01:50:57,290 --> 01:50:52,800 is and they'll know exactly what we're 2196 01:51:00,880 --> 01:50:57,300 talking about but but it's not the Great 2197 01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:00,890 Sphinx is there by going back to Giza is 2198 01:51:06,980 --> 01:51:05,010 there a possibility because it is there 2199 01:51:10,250 --> 01:51:06,990 on the the Sphinx Stella there's no 2200 01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:10,260 doubt about at up Moses yeah clearly 2201 01:51:16,190 --> 01:51:13,010 stated he had a dream he fell asleep 2202 01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:16,200 it's you would be the next Pharaoh if 2203 01:51:23,810 --> 01:51:19,890 you unburied me you know that that that 2204 01:51:25,970 --> 01:51:23,820 story and he said on the Stella that 2205 01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:25,980 there was a second Sphinx now if we look 2206 01:51:32,530 --> 01:51:29,250 at the Giza Plateau where could it be 2207 01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:32,540 I've always thought west northwest 2208 01:51:40,940 --> 01:51:38,250 corner up near the the 2209 01:51:43,010 --> 01:51:40,950 Cave right the birds yeah I mean I think 2210 01:51:45,650 --> 01:51:43,020 that would be a possibility something 2211 01:51:48,260 --> 01:51:45,660 that sir flinders petrie who was one of 2212 01:51:50,710 --> 01:51:48,270 the great egypt colleges and not it's 2213 01:51:52,780 --> 01:51:50,720 very funny not funny funny but 2214 01:51:57,050 --> 01:51:52,790 interesting that some of the great 2215 01:51:59,240 --> 01:51:57,060 Egyptologists of the late 19th early 20s 2216 01:52:00,710 --> 01:51:59,250 a were alive today I think they'd be 2217 01:52:02,300 --> 01:52:00,720 very disappointed with some of the 2218 01:52:04,130 --> 01:52:02,310 modern Egyptologists and how 2219 01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:04,140 closed-minded they are right but that's 2220 01:52:12,470 --> 01:52:06,690 another comment I he thought that maybe 2221 01:52:14,990 --> 01:52:12,480 it was across the Nile on Heliopolis but 2222 01:52:17,510 --> 01:52:15,000 these things ever found it and you know 2223 01:52:20,780 --> 01:52:17,520 what happened is a lot of these areas 2224 01:52:22,310 --> 01:52:20,790 are so built up now and they've now 2225 01:52:24,620 --> 01:52:22,320 people are living there so whether 2226 01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:24,630 you're talking across the Nile or you're 2227 01:52:33,440 --> 01:52:30,290 talking up in the northwest corner I was 2228 01:52:37,970 --> 01:52:33,450 looking at Google map actually with this 2229 01:52:41,210 --> 01:52:37,980 in mind and if you start looking at Giza 2230 01:52:44,180 --> 01:52:41,220 I mean I've seen this in my own research 2231 01:52:47,780 --> 01:52:44,190 in my own time going back and forth to 2232 01:52:50,810 --> 01:52:47,790 Egypt what used to be desert to the west 2233 01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:50,820 and north of Giza is now all being built 2234 01:52:57,770 --> 01:52:55,770 up so so I'm afraid that maybe the 2235 01:52:59,690 --> 01:52:57,780 second Sphinx which I think there's a 2236 01:53:02,000 --> 01:52:59,700 very good possibility that really was a 2237 01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:02,010 second Sphinx or is a second Sphinx it 2238 01:53:07,190 --> 01:53:05,010 may be buried in sand and it may be it 2239 01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:07,200 may even be built over at this point 2240 01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:09,810 what about now we talked about geese a 2241 01:53:18,290 --> 01:53:16,560 lot but what about maybe in saqqara I'm 2242 01:53:21,440 --> 01:53:18,300 thinking about that's why I'm hesitating 2243 01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:21,450 I don't see any evidence of second 2244 01:53:26,330 --> 01:53:24,090 Sphinx in Sekar what I mean by that snow 2245 01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:26,340 if I saw a second thing sir I'd tell you 2246 01:53:32,660 --> 01:53:30,090 right away but saqqara is a different 2247 01:53:36,170 --> 01:53:32,670 very different outline a very different 2248 01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:36,180 plan it has a very different should we 2249 01:53:41,420 --> 01:53:39,090 say feel to it what was being built 2250 01:53:44,900 --> 01:53:41,430 there what was being developed there and 2251 01:53:47,300 --> 01:53:44,910 it doesn't it doesn't intuitively strike 2252 01:53:50,150 --> 01:53:47,310 me as a place where you find a second 2253 01:53:51,090 --> 01:53:50,160 Sphinx just because it I don't know that 2254 01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:51,100 a second 2255 01:53:55,710 --> 01:53:53,650 what's it in there what you do have it's 2256 01:53:58,890 --> 01:53:55,720 a car which you and I have talked about 2257 01:54:01,320 --> 01:53:58,900 before is this Serapeum besides a step 2258 01:54:05,700 --> 01:54:01,330 pyramid but the Serapeum where you have 2259 01:54:08,130 --> 01:54:05,710 these huge huge huge granite 2260 01:54:11,930 --> 01:54:08,140 they called him sarcophagi I prefer the 2261 01:54:16,860 --> 01:54:11,940 term coffer but these huge granite boxes 2262 01:54:19,110 --> 01:54:16,870 which are quite inexplicable as to how 2263 01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:19,120 they got there they're underground in 2264 01:54:26,780 --> 01:54:23,890 this complex or tunnel system and they 2265 01:54:29,030 --> 01:54:26,790 were used traditionally the traditional 2266 01:54:31,380 --> 01:54:29,040 concept although this has never been 2267 01:54:36,020 --> 01:54:31,390 absolutely demonstrated they were used 2268 01:54:39,150 --> 01:54:36,030 for sacred Bulls mummified sacred Bulls 2269 01:54:41,340 --> 01:54:39,160 but they actually didn't find any in 2270 01:54:43,380 --> 01:54:41,350 them and you know they're they're quite 2271 01:54:46,500 --> 01:54:43,390 an explicable you have that there and 2272 01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:46,510 the other major thing that people think 2273 01:54:52,260 --> 01:54:50,290 of the car for is the step pyramid which 2274 01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:52,270 is a magnificent structure in its own 2275 01:54:59,250 --> 01:54:54,130 right but very different than the Giza 2276 01:55:01,350 --> 01:54:59,260 pyramids yeah I I the only sarcophagus 2277 01:55:04,140 --> 01:55:01,360 the big ones that I've seen are at the 2278 01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:04,150 met in New York right now they're small 2279 01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:06,330 compared to what you see in the Serapeum 2280 01:55:17,730 --> 01:55:14,050 exactly and it blows my mind because 2281 01:55:20,580 --> 01:55:17,740 when you go into they have one massive 2282 01:55:25,230 --> 01:55:20,590 one in the Dendera a glass room right in 2283 01:55:27,930 --> 01:55:25,240 the back and that thing is probably six 2284 01:55:31,470 --> 01:55:27,940 to eight feet wide six to eight feet 2285 01:55:35,550 --> 01:55:31,480 tall and it's got to be 12 to 14 feet 2286 01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:35,560 long massive black granite and they've 2287 01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:37,570 got the lid there and you stand there 2288 01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:40,810 and you look at that and you knock on it 2289 01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:44,050 right and you realize it's it's 2290 01:55:50,490 --> 01:55:48,010 ginormous weight and size and then you 2291 01:55:54,170 --> 01:55:50,500 go and you think of this err p.m. and 2292 01:55:56,850 --> 01:55:54,180 where these are bigger than this and I 2293 01:55:59,790 --> 01:55:56,860 just can't I can't figure it out man I'm 2294 01:56:02,490 --> 01:55:59,800 at I'm at a complete loss oh oh it's 2295 01:56:04,890 --> 01:56:02,500 just insane it's just crazy but you know 2296 01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:04,900 this is part of the thing with the Egypt 2297 01:56:11,820 --> 01:56:08,170 it is it's unbelievable what they were 2298 01:56:16,350 --> 01:56:11,830 doing in terms of size when they were 2299 01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:16,360 building our carving stone and the you 2300 01:56:24,450 --> 01:56:19,810 know whether it's sarcophagi or obelisk 2301 01:56:29,070 --> 01:56:24,460 you know one piece solid Ovilus red 2302 01:56:31,490 --> 01:56:29,080 granite or it's incredible I was 2303 01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:31,500 thinking you go to constantinople 2304 01:56:37,740 --> 01:56:34,570 istanbul modern Istanbul and there's an 2305 01:56:40,229 --> 01:56:37,750 obelisk there that was imported from 2306 01:56:42,750 --> 01:56:40,239 Egypt not even particularly large and 2307 01:56:45,479 --> 01:56:42,760 it's absolutely incredible then there's 2308 01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:45,489 another obelisk that was built on site 2309 01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:48,010 whoa that was built you know a thousand 2310 01:56:54,750 --> 01:56:51,040 or so years later it's I forget exactly 2311 01:56:57,330 --> 01:56:54,760 how old is now but it's much later than 2312 01:56:59,580 --> 01:56:57,340 the Egyptian obelisk at that point they 2313 01:57:01,350 --> 01:56:59,590 couldn't carve one solid piece of stone 2314 01:57:04,770 --> 01:57:01,360 they had to cobble this together with a 2315 01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:04,780 bunch of stones versus the Egyptians 2316 01:57:09,959 --> 01:57:06,730 they would carve these things from one 2317 01:57:12,330 --> 01:57:09,969 solid piece of stone now the obelisk or 2318 01:57:14,070 --> 01:57:12,340 a sarcophagus or whatever it's I mean 2319 01:57:16,830 --> 01:57:14,080 it's incredible well you're a geologist 2320 01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:16,840 when you look at these granite 2321 01:57:22,500 --> 01:57:20,010 sarcophagus and you look at the 2322 01:57:25,140 --> 01:57:22,510 hieroglyphics that are carved into them 2323 01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:25,150 I don't care what year was done I don't 2324 01:57:34,919 --> 01:57:29,050 care if it was done in 2015 or 2500 BC 2325 01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:34,929 2400 2000 BC how is it possible to carve 2326 01:57:43,439 --> 01:57:39,010 such precise inscriptions into those 2327 01:57:46,020 --> 01:57:43,449 granite stiii it wasn't done with copper 2328 01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:46,030 it wasn't done oh no no this is a real 2329 01:57:48,450 --> 01:57:46,570 problem 2330 01:57:52,050 --> 01:57:48,460 how were they carving these things on 2331 01:57:53,700 --> 01:57:52,060 some of the sarcophagi and hopefully 2332 01:57:55,919 --> 01:57:53,710 they're still on display I'll show it to 2333 01:57:58,890 --> 01:57:55,929 everyone when we go there you can 2334 01:58:03,000 --> 01:57:58,900 actually see saw marks so they were 2335 01:58:05,939 --> 01:58:03,010 sawing grain it and which is you know 2336 01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:05,949 really incredible then there's other 2337 01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:07,810 granite where you know it has this 2338 01:58:13,530 --> 01:58:11,290 incredibly beautiful polish and Sheen to 2339 01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:13,540 it so somehow they were working it that 2340 01:58:18,629 --> 01:58:17,290 way you have inscriptions on some of 2341 01:58:20,819 --> 01:58:18,639 them which are at 2342 01:58:22,859 --> 01:58:20,829 totally gorgeous and beautiful as you 2343 01:58:25,379 --> 01:58:22,869 say and you have to ask how did they 2344 01:58:28,409 --> 01:58:25,389 carve them how did they get such 2345 01:58:30,989 --> 01:58:28,419 beautiful hieroglyphics and what not 2346 01:58:34,859 --> 01:58:30,999 then you have other circle a guy and I 2347 01:58:37,649 --> 01:58:34,869 think of one that I show people and it 2348 01:58:39,919 --> 01:58:37,659 seems quite evident that the inscription 2349 01:58:42,750 --> 01:58:39,929 on it which is a genuine ancient 2350 01:58:45,929 --> 01:58:42,760 inscription I have no doubt is much 2351 01:58:48,419 --> 01:58:45,939 later than the than what it's being 2352 01:58:50,459 --> 01:58:48,429 scribed on so again this ties in with 2353 01:58:53,129 --> 01:58:50,469 what I was talking about before where 2354 01:58:55,109 --> 01:58:53,139 they were reusing things so in some 2355 01:58:59,399 --> 01:58:55,119 cases they've got much something much 2356 01:59:01,529 --> 01:58:59,409 older and they're reusing it four 2357 01:59:03,899 --> 01:59:01,539 thousand years ago or three thousand 2358 01:59:06,299 --> 01:59:03,909 years ago so you have to be careful 2359 01:59:08,850 --> 01:59:06,309 sometimes because especially at saqqara 2360 01:59:12,029 --> 01:59:08,860 I believe there's a lot of evidence that 2361 01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:12,039 you have much much much older structures 2362 01:59:18,959 --> 01:59:16,090 and much much much older antiques more 2363 01:59:22,949 --> 01:59:18,969 less things that were ancient to the 2364 01:59:25,259 --> 01:59:22,959 dynastic Egyptians four thousand five 2365 01:59:27,449 --> 01:59:25,269 hundred four thousand seven hundred 2366 01:59:30,649 --> 01:59:27,459 years ago let's take a break right here 2367 01:59:34,139 --> 01:59:30,659 dr. Schaack and when we come back let's 2368 01:59:38,759 --> 01:59:34,149 what's next on our list of oh the 2369 01:59:40,109 --> 01:59:38,769 sarcophagus in Alexandria we'll do nice 2370 01:59:44,129 --> 01:59:40,119 segue there doctor 2371 01:59:44,969 --> 01:59:44,139 well done our guest tonight dr. Robert M 2372 01:59:47,219 --> 01:59:44,979 shock 2373 01:59:51,689 --> 01:59:47,229 this is fade to black I marry me church 2374 01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:51,699 on the GameChanger network and kg RA 2375 01:59:59,810 --> 01:59:54,810 we'll be right back stay with us 2376 02:00:06,910 --> 02:00:02,040 everybody's Rob Halford the mental guard 2377 02:00:13,550 --> 02:00:10,220 this is kera digital broadcasting 2378 02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:13,560 station Salt Lake City Utah Van Buren 2379 02:00:19,970 --> 02:00:17,370 Arkansas okay nurse let's get this man 2380 02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:19,980 to the ER stat right away doctor we see 2381 02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:22,290 this every day heart attack or angina 2382 02:00:27,260 --> 02:00:24,690 pain due to blocked and clogged arteries 2383 02:00:29,209 --> 02:00:27,270 chelation can remove obstructions or 2384 02:00:31,100 --> 02:00:29,219 blockages from arteries and help avoid 2385 02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:31,110 painful and expensive surgery 2386 02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:33,330 now there's angio prim it's a liquid 2387 02:00:37,189 --> 02:00:35,250 oral chelation product that you take 2388 02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:37,199 with juice you start to feel the results 2389 02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:40,170 fast angio prim increases blood flow all 2390 02:00:44,060 --> 02:00:42,210 over the body and that means more energy 2391 02:00:46,580 --> 02:00:44,070 and strength to take on the day with 2392 02:00:48,700 --> 02:00:46,590 less aches and pains 60 years of 2393 02:00:51,770 --> 02:00:48,710 research has gone into chelation and 2394 02:00:53,990 --> 02:00:51,780 angiogram is the result a safe and easy 2395 02:00:56,149 --> 02:00:54,000 way to unblock your veins and arteries 2396 02:00:58,010 --> 02:00:56,159 from build-up that slow circulation 2397 02:00:59,810 --> 02:00:58,020 shaping dr. 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Robert M 2461 02:04:19,950 --> 02:04:18,610 shock segment of Payton black have 2462 02:04:23,850 --> 02:04:19,960 proudly brought to you by bearing 2463 02:04:26,129 --> 02:04:23,860 objects that's right that's what I use 2464 02:04:27,660 --> 02:04:26,139 night-vision goggles you can go and 2465 02:04:30,540 --> 02:04:27,670 click on the banners right now we just 2466 02:04:34,260 --> 02:04:30,550 got back from me study and nothing like 2467 02:04:36,330 --> 02:04:34,270 having night vision and watching all of 2468 02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:36,340 our friends up there it's a pretty 2469 02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:38,770 amazing contact Alec Hoffman and the 2470 02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:40,210 information is right there Timmy church 2471 02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:43,690 radio calm dr. Schaack have you speaking 2472 02:04:49,410 --> 02:04:46,570 of that have you ever looked up to the 2473 02:04:59,490 --> 02:04:49,420 skies with night-vision goggles and and 2474 02:05:02,459 --> 02:04:59,500 tried to see something use night-vision 2475 02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:02,469 goggles you've you seen all of the you 2476 02:05:08,070 --> 02:05:04,690 know and heard the reports of it yeah 2477 02:05:11,580 --> 02:05:08,080 it's a life-changing experience the 2478 02:05:14,610 --> 02:05:11,590 first time you're invited next time you 2479 02:05:18,540 --> 02:05:14,620 and I get together we're going out we're 2480 02:05:22,790 --> 02:05:18,550 going out and Rita you know how long it 2481 02:05:26,729 --> 02:05:22,800 takes you to see something strange five 2482 02:05:28,770 --> 02:05:26,739 five seconds and it's a guaranteed to 2483 02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:28,780 it's just a look forward to it that 2484 02:05:35,129 --> 02:05:31,210 sounds fun yeah you've got to do it with 2485 02:05:38,430 --> 02:05:35,139 us and we will we will so this this 2486 02:05:40,379 --> 02:05:38,440 sarcophagus that was found in Alexandria 2487 02:05:42,600 --> 02:05:40,389 going back to what we were talking about 2488 02:05:46,490 --> 02:05:42,610 the weight the size of these things 2489 02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:46,500 oh yeah that was the estimate was about 2490 02:05:55,860 --> 02:05:52,570 27 to 30 tons that that's not a minor 2491 02:05:58,020 --> 02:05:55,870 thing and this was not a when it comes 2492 02:06:01,320 --> 02:05:58,030 right down to it particularly large 2493 02:06:04,620 --> 02:06:01,330 sarcophagus by Egyptian standards that 2494 02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:04,630 we were talking about was a few meters 2495 02:06:10,860 --> 02:06:07,090 long and you know a couple meters tall 2496 02:06:14,820 --> 02:06:10,870 and you know say 6 feet tall 9 feet or 2497 02:06:17,129 --> 02:06:14,830 so long 9 to 10 feet long and you know 2498 02:06:19,770 --> 02:06:17,139 when you're talking a solid granite 2499 02:06:21,860 --> 02:06:19,780 sarcophagus twice a solid you know made 2500 02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:21,870 out of granite with very very thick 2501 02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:26,770 walls on it this is not a minor thing no 2502 02:06:34,790 --> 02:06:31,210 and and what was fascinating for me was 2503 02:06:37,979 --> 02:06:34,800 watching the video of them struggling 2504 02:06:40,919 --> 02:06:37,989 well yeah all of the modern technology 2505 02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:40,929 that we have struggling with this thing 2506 02:06:46,110 --> 02:06:44,170 and and what they had to do to to get 2507 02:06:48,450 --> 02:06:46,120 the top of it off and to clear it up 2508 02:06:51,660 --> 02:06:48,460 and to think about you know go back to 2509 02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:51,670 300 BC and apparently they're moving 2510 02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:52,810 these things around like they were 2511 02:06:57,300 --> 02:06:55,330 nothing yeah exactly that's the thing 2512 02:07:00,450 --> 02:06:57,310 how are they doing it back then we have 2513 02:07:03,510 --> 02:07:00,460 such a hard time with it now and that's 2514 02:07:06,810 --> 02:07:03,520 300 BC and when you go back further in 2515 02:07:10,649 --> 02:07:06,820 time this is one of the classic aspects 2516 02:07:12,270 --> 02:07:10,659 of Egypt which you know the classical 2517 02:07:15,030 --> 02:07:12,280 Egyptologists don't have a good 2518 02:07:17,729 --> 02:07:15,040 explanation for as you go further back 2519 02:07:22,760 --> 02:07:17,739 in time things tend to get larger they 2520 02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:22,770 tend to become even more technologically 2521 02:07:27,479 --> 02:07:25,690 difficult should we say and you would 2522 02:07:29,580 --> 02:07:27,489 normally expect things to go the other 2523 02:07:32,729 --> 02:07:29,590 way that starts out primitive and then 2524 02:07:35,189 --> 02:07:32,739 gets larger more sophisticated we have 2525 02:07:40,439 --> 02:07:35,199 the opposite in Egypt so really we're 2526 02:07:43,740 --> 02:07:40,449 looking at 300 or Ptolemaic period the 2527 02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:43,750 end of what we think of is Egyptian 2528 02:07:48,330 --> 02:07:45,850 civilization not the beginning with that 2529 02:07:52,470 --> 02:07:48,340 sarcophagus in Alexandria and still 2530 02:07:55,770 --> 02:07:52,480 absolutely amazing how much how much 2531 02:07:57,870 --> 02:07:55,780 have we actually discovered and I know 2532 02:08:03,990 --> 02:07:57,880 you've contemplated this you know in 2533 02:08:08,729 --> 02:08:04,000 Egypt yeah yeah I'll put a maybe five to 2534 02:08:10,740 --> 02:08:08,739 ten percent right liberally maybe there 2535 02:08:12,750 --> 02:08:10,750 is a lot to discover in Egypt and 2536 02:08:14,970 --> 02:08:12,760 there's a couple of issues when it comes 2537 02:08:18,479 --> 02:08:14,980 to that and I'm a geologists 2538 02:08:20,910 --> 02:08:18,489 geophysicists so there's a lot of 2539 02:08:23,070 --> 02:08:20,920 innocent may sound crude and trite but 2540 02:08:26,220 --> 02:08:23,080 there's a lot of sand there there's a 2541 02:08:30,689 --> 02:08:26,230 lot of silt Nile there which has covered 2542 02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:30,699 things up and yet even though so much 2543 02:08:35,970 --> 02:08:32,770 has been buried and covered up and we 2544 02:08:37,830 --> 02:08:35,980 know that when I say we know that 2545 02:08:40,170 --> 02:08:37,840 because wherever you dig in Egypt you're 2546 02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:40,180 going to find something it seems where 2547 02:08:46,350 --> 02:08:43,090 ever you do geophysics you start picking 2548 02:08:49,410 --> 02:08:46,360 up things now with Google and satellite 2549 02:08:52,140 --> 02:08:49,420 imagery and that those types of 2550 02:08:54,420 --> 02:08:52,150 techniques remote sensing we can pick up 2551 02:08:56,370 --> 02:08:54,430 more and more things I do want to stress 2552 02:08:58,080 --> 02:08:56,380 though because I get all people sending 2553 02:09:00,450 --> 02:08:58,090 me stuff all the time though well here's 2554 02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:00,460 this and that and everything you always 2555 02:09:04,560 --> 02:09:02,890 have to ground check so you really you 2556 02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:04,570 know things can be misleading from 2557 02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:06,850 satellite photographs but there's a lot 2558 02:09:11,940 --> 02:09:10,570 there to find but the second aspect is 2559 02:09:15,060 --> 02:09:11,950 not just as they're a lot they're 2560 02:09:18,870 --> 02:09:15,070 defined in Egypt there's so much on the 2561 02:09:20,990 --> 02:09:18,880 surface already that it's overwhelming 2562 02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:21,000 and then it's been overwhelming for 2563 02:09:25,620 --> 02:09:23,050 Egyptologist for the last couple of 2564 02:09:29,300 --> 02:09:25,630 centuries so most Egyptologists they 2565 02:09:31,740 --> 02:09:29,310 specialize in one small field bit a 2566 02:09:34,650 --> 02:09:31,750 geographic field or a certain time 2567 02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:34,660 period etc and there's so much on the 2568 02:09:40,979 --> 02:09:38,410 surface for them to study that that's a 2569 02:09:44,130 --> 02:09:40,989 lifetime of work to begin with much less 2570 02:09:46,400 --> 02:09:44,140 to discover something new they the 2571 02:09:48,870 --> 02:09:46,410 Egyptian government some cases basically 2572 02:09:50,460 --> 02:09:48,880 discourages people from discovering new 2573 02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:50,470 things because they can't deal with what 2574 02:09:55,380 --> 02:09:53,890 they've got already what's stopping you 2575 02:09:58,110 --> 02:09:55,390 know there's ground-penetrating radar 2576 02:10:01,400 --> 02:09:58,120 you have lidar and other things that 2577 02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:01,410 could be yeah applied with aircraft and 2578 02:10:08,850 --> 02:10:05,530 but in this mulan project what is what 2579 02:10:11,510 --> 02:10:08,860 is just stopping a massive Giza Plateau 2580 02:10:13,770 --> 02:10:11,520 all the way to Saqqara right and just 2581 02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:13,780 finding out what's underneath the sand 2582 02:10:17,729 --> 02:10:15,850 we have the technology why not I would 2583 02:10:20,040 --> 02:10:17,739 say there's two things one you've got 2584 02:10:23,430 --> 02:10:20,050 the Egyptian authorities and they have 2585 02:10:25,740 --> 02:10:23,440 to approve anything and ultimately it 2586 02:10:29,310 --> 02:10:25,750 becomes a military issue in some cases 2587 02:10:32,910 --> 02:10:29,320 because you know they're sensitive about 2588 02:10:35,060 --> 02:10:32,920 things and there's military aspects too 2589 02:10:38,490 --> 02:10:35,070 I mean I'm being very pragmatic here 2590 02:10:42,570 --> 02:10:38,500 right by Giza there is a military base 2591 02:10:45,479 --> 02:10:42,580 etc etc yeah so there's other issues 2592 02:10:47,700 --> 02:10:45,489 involved besides Antiquities that's 2593 02:10:48,810 --> 02:10:47,710 number one number two its money any of 2594 02:10:51,090 --> 02:10:48,820 these techniques 2595 02:10:54,240 --> 02:10:51,100 a lot of money to do them right you need 2596 02:10:56,220 --> 02:10:54,250 to get the equipment out there you need 2597 02:11:01,560 --> 02:10:56,230 to have all the proper specialized 2598 02:11:04,620 --> 02:11:01,570 technicians for the equipment you know 2599 02:11:07,620 --> 02:11:04,630 it would take me forever just to run one 2600 02:11:11,340 --> 02:11:07,630 operate one piece of equipment you need 2601 02:11:13,790 --> 02:11:11,350 a massive number of people to do that 2602 02:11:17,010 --> 02:11:13,800 then you need a lot of processing power 2603 02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:17,020 with supercomputers for some of this 2604 02:11:22,050 --> 02:11:19,570 because you get so much data coming in 2605 02:11:24,420 --> 02:11:22,060 that's something that is a big factor 2606 02:11:28,320 --> 02:11:24,430 for instance for instance with the scan 2607 02:11:30,600 --> 02:11:28,330 pyramids mulan project it's not just 2608 02:11:32,520 --> 02:11:30,610 collecting the data but it's processing 2609 02:11:36,060 --> 02:11:32,530 the data which is very very expensive 2610 02:11:38,910 --> 02:11:36,070 and time-consuming building equipment in 2611 02:11:40,170 --> 02:11:38,920 some cases just to process that data and 2612 02:11:42,420 --> 02:11:40,180 make sense out of it 2613 02:11:44,460 --> 02:11:42,430 so there's a lot of practical aspects 2614 02:11:46,800 --> 02:11:44,470 but no it could be done it could 2615 02:11:49,140 --> 02:11:46,810 absolutely be done and it's it's amazing 2616 02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:49,150 to me you know people dump money into 2617 02:11:53,910 --> 02:11:51,370 all kinds of frivolous things when I say 2618 02:11:56,190 --> 02:11:53,920 dump money you know people put millions 2619 02:11:59,070 --> 02:11:56,200 of dollars into other things I think 2620 02:12:02,160 --> 02:11:59,080 here we have a situation where we could 2621 02:12:04,530 --> 02:12:02,170 learn so much and so much not just for 2622 02:12:06,930 --> 02:12:04,540 its own sake because he ain't Egypt and 2623 02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:06,940 antiquity is important and interesting 2624 02:12:11,460 --> 02:12:09,010 but because I think we could learn 2625 02:12:11,940 --> 02:12:11,470 things that could apply to the present 2626 02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:11,950 day 2627 02:12:16,470 --> 02:12:14,770 well when we look at what and I was so 2628 02:12:19,230 --> 02:12:16,480 fascinated with the mapping that was 2629 02:12:22,140 --> 02:12:19,240 done over Guatemala and Honduras and and 2630 02:12:24,720 --> 02:12:22,150 all of the structures that were found 2631 02:12:27,330 --> 02:12:24,730 and the highway systems that worried 2632 02:12:30,750 --> 02:12:27,340 under the jungle canopy there we had no 2633 02:12:33,570 --> 02:12:30,760 idea right no no no we had no idea but 2634 02:12:35,970 --> 02:12:33,580 that is a different thing to penetrate 2635 02:12:39,150 --> 02:12:35,980 versus sand right right there there's 2636 02:12:40,710 --> 02:12:39,160 different issues involved and sometimes 2637 02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:40,720 jungle campy I'm not trying to make 2638 02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:42,400 excuses for Egypt but it's sometimes 2639 02:12:47,370 --> 02:12:45,130 easier to penetrate that then you have 2640 02:12:49,590 --> 02:12:47,380 then sand and of course you're in a 2641 02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:49,600 different situation I mean you can't 2642 02:12:53,310 --> 02:12:51,370 just put things into Egyptian airspace 2643 02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:53,320 without getting all the proper 2644 02:12:59,240 --> 02:12:56,010 professionals right but the the the 2645 02:13:02,210 --> 02:12:59,250 the mentality behind it is well you know 2646 02:13:04,130 --> 02:13:02,220 I'm sitting there mentality and I've 2647 02:13:07,479 --> 02:13:04,140 known many Egyptians with all due 2648 02:13:11,180 --> 02:13:07,489 respect who really don't care much about 2649 02:13:13,190 --> 02:13:11,190 dynastic Egypt because it I think we may 2650 02:13:16,210 --> 02:13:13,200 have talked about this before if it's 2651 02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:16,220 pre Muslim for some Egyptians it's not a 2652 02:13:22,460 --> 02:13:20,010 high priority should we say wow so you 2653 02:13:24,110 --> 02:13:22,470 tell you get you know there's religious 2654 02:13:27,800 --> 02:13:24,120 aspects to it what we have in this 2655 02:13:30,530 --> 02:13:27,810 country also right now people couldn't 2656 02:13:34,400 --> 02:13:30,540 care less about Native American burial 2657 02:13:36,320 --> 02:13:34,410 mounds etc is that reason enough well 2658 02:13:42,010 --> 02:13:36,330 here's the million-dollar question and 2659 02:13:45,170 --> 02:13:42,020 it really comes down to this I feel that 2660 02:13:47,870 --> 02:13:45,180 information is being suppressed I'm just 2661 02:13:52,280 --> 02:13:47,880 being very straightforward here the 2662 02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:52,290 question is why suppress the knowledge 2663 02:13:57,200 --> 02:13:54,570 we know we know that they're holding 2664 02:13:58,940 --> 02:13:57,210 back a word that they don't want to go 2665 02:14:01,580 --> 02:13:58,950 and find out things 2666 02:14:02,570 --> 02:14:01,590 why suppress it I that that's the 2667 02:14:06,170 --> 02:14:02,580 question 2668 02:14:08,870 --> 02:14:06,180 politics and religion that's it that's 2669 02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:08,880 simple I think it's that simple in some 2670 02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:11,010 case I think it's politics religion and 2671 02:14:16,670 --> 02:14:13,770 vested interests when I say vested 2672 02:14:19,729 --> 02:14:16,680 interests I mean how many and I don't 2673 02:14:21,470 --> 02:14:19,739 want to sound well I thought ray don't 2674 02:14:23,330 --> 02:14:21,480 want to sound the wrong way but I 2675 02:14:25,340 --> 02:14:23,340 certainly know in many fields of 2676 02:14:28,490 --> 02:14:25,350 academia that people have vested 2677 02:14:30,800 --> 02:14:28,500 interest that you know if they've built 2678 02:14:32,600 --> 02:14:30,810 their career on one thing they don't 2679 02:14:34,550 --> 02:14:32,610 want to be told they were wrong they 2680 02:14:38,540 --> 02:14:34,560 don't want to have to rewrite their own 2681 02:14:41,900 --> 02:14:38,550 books or rethink their own doctrines 2682 02:14:45,229 --> 02:14:41,910 their own hypotheses etc so you have it 2683 02:14:47,450 --> 02:14:45,239 at that level you have strong religious 2684 02:14:51,110 --> 02:14:47,460 interest in some cases I have been 2685 02:14:53,030 --> 02:14:51,120 attacked by both Christians and Muslims 2686 02:14:55,940 --> 02:14:53,040 you know not physically attacked but 2687 02:14:58,280 --> 02:14:55,950 verbally attacked for pushing 2688 02:15:01,640 --> 02:14:58,290 civilization back for pushing back the 2689 02:15:03,500 --> 02:15:01,650 age of the Sphinx people who tell me oh 2690 02:15:06,990 --> 02:15:03,510 you know I'm saying this Fink's is older 2691 02:15:09,520 --> 02:15:07,000 than the world is that's the extreme but 2692 02:15:12,490 --> 02:15:09,530 you know that a lot of people are very 2693 02:15:15,280 --> 02:15:12,500 strong feelings about things well we 2694 02:15:19,240 --> 02:15:15,290 have you know gobekli tepe 2695 02:15:21,070 --> 02:15:19,250 let's just call it like it is gobekli 2696 02:15:23,500 --> 02:15:21,080 tepe wasn't supposed to exist and 2697 02:15:25,540 --> 02:15:23,510 although it wasn't supposed to exist and 2698 02:15:30,910 --> 02:15:25,550 this Winx wasn't supposed to have any 2699 02:15:33,610 --> 02:15:30,920 incarnation any any existence in any 2700 02:15:35,440 --> 02:15:33,620 form whatsoever because just to make 2701 02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:35,450 clear for the audience who hasn't heard 2702 02:15:40,540 --> 02:15:37,850 this before I push the day of the Sphinx 2703 02:15:43,090 --> 02:15:40,550 back much earlier back to about 10,000 2704 02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:43,100 BC but it wasn't the Sphinx that we see 2705 02:15:49,090 --> 02:15:45,770 today was not the dynastic head we see 2706 02:15:51,040 --> 02:15:49,100 it was actually a lioness and the head 2707 02:15:54,150 --> 02:15:51,050 has been recarved so it didn't look the 2708 02:15:57,040 --> 02:15:54,160 way it does today but that was 2709 02:16:01,450 --> 02:15:57,050 incredible 2710 02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:01,460 I mean heresy in academic circles people 2711 02:16:07,780 --> 02:16:04,330 tried to have me fired etc etc and 2712 02:16:10,180 --> 02:16:07,790 gobekli tepe which was found a number of 2713 02:16:12,550 --> 02:16:10,190 years later and excavated even later and 2714 02:16:16,240 --> 02:16:12,560 really came on the scene is the same 2715 02:16:19,600 --> 02:16:16,250 period in equally sophisticated and goes 2716 02:16:23,320 --> 02:16:19,610 back to that same period and is 2717 02:16:25,600 --> 02:16:23,330 absolutely evidence in my opinion that 2718 02:16:28,420 --> 02:16:25,610 what I've been talking about long before 2719 02:16:30,700 --> 02:16:28,430 it was discovered is true it's it's 2720 02:16:31,780 --> 02:16:30,710 cooperating evidence it's confirming 2721 02:16:35,500 --> 02:16:31,790 what I've been saying 2722 02:16:37,360 --> 02:16:35,510 well Lerner said at the big conference 2723 02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:37,370 he said you know give me evidence of 2724 02:16:43,810 --> 02:16:39,679 another civilization pushing things back 2725 02:16:46,330 --> 02:16:43,820 to 10,000 BC and then you know well had 2726 02:16:49,839 --> 02:16:46,340 gobekli tepe been around and discovered 2727 02:16:52,870 --> 02:16:49,849 in 1990-1991 your position would have 2728 02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:52,880 been completely different lately 2729 02:16:57,160 --> 02:16:54,410 different and I wouldn't have suffered 2730 02:17:00,160 --> 02:16:57,170 all the abuse I had I suffered at the 2731 02:17:02,050 --> 02:17:00,170 time and now look at what happens part 2732 02:17:04,780 --> 02:17:02,060 of the answer to the question you just 2733 02:17:06,879 --> 02:17:04,790 posed even though we now have Quebec 2734 02:17:09,520 --> 02:17:06,889 except they have some of those people 2735 02:17:12,100 --> 02:17:09,530 change their position not significantly 2736 02:17:14,440 --> 02:17:12,110 they were served brush Quebec Lee kept 2737 02:17:17,500 --> 02:17:14,450 me under the rug and still say well that 2738 02:17:19,209 --> 02:17:17,510 doesn't apply somehow oh it's not really 2739 02:17:20,799 --> 02:17:19,219 that sophisticated 2740 02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:20,809 you know they can't dismiss it but 2741 02:17:26,290 --> 02:17:23,290 they can try to ignore it so I Hawass 2742 02:17:28,660 --> 02:17:26,300 literally has said that he doesn't know 2743 02:17:30,339 --> 02:17:28,670 anything about Quebec Lee kept pace so 2744 02:17:32,349 --> 02:17:30,349 if he doesn't know about it apparently 2745 02:17:35,889 --> 02:17:32,359 it doesn't count as evidence 2746 02:17:38,169 --> 02:17:35,899 I can't and that's on video I cannot 2747 02:17:40,870 --> 02:17:38,179 well these words came out of his mouth 2748 02:17:44,049 --> 02:17:40,880 like I know it so mean this is the level 2749 02:17:45,849 --> 02:17:44,059 that we're talking about I mean this is 2750 02:17:47,830 --> 02:17:45,859 a level of people we're talking about in 2751 02:17:50,259 --> 02:17:47,840 some cases and I sound like I'm being 2752 02:17:51,639 --> 02:17:50,269 very harsh I guess I am but you have to 2753 02:17:56,979 --> 02:17:51,649 say it the way it is I mean it's 2754 02:17:59,200 --> 02:17:56,989 ridiculous I'm gonna get into politics I 2755 02:18:02,859 --> 02:17:59,210 was going to say say certain people have 2756 02:18:09,450 --> 02:18:02,869 been inventing their own quote truth 2757 02:18:15,000 --> 02:18:11,919 okay 2758 02:18:19,629 --> 02:18:15,010 send all of your email to Robert Schoch 2759 02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:19,639 okay but but this is I think you know 2760 02:18:25,240 --> 02:18:22,250 what I'm saying I do I do I don't you 2761 02:18:28,599 --> 02:18:25,250 just I mean sometimes people just make 2762 02:18:34,240 --> 02:18:28,609 up things well the bigger picture is is 2763 02:18:38,109 --> 02:18:34,250 quite simply this that if if evidence 2764 02:18:42,069 --> 02:18:38,119 was revealed of a prior society and 2765 02:18:45,910 --> 02:18:42,079 civilization high technical civilization 2766 02:18:48,639 --> 02:18:45,920 before 3,000 BC then that changes 2767 02:18:51,160 --> 02:18:48,649 everything that changes the Bible that 2768 02:18:52,780 --> 02:18:51,170 changes religious aspects that changes 2769 02:18:55,240 --> 02:18:52,790 every book that has ever been written 2770 02:18:57,759 --> 02:18:55,250 all of the curriculum being taught in 2771 02:19:00,580 --> 02:18:57,769 schools and geopolitics and everything 2772 02:19:03,759 --> 02:19:00,590 else has to change and the earth would 2773 02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:03,769 shift on its axis it would be that 2774 02:19:11,649 --> 02:19:07,010 monumental and quite possibly that is 2775 02:19:13,689 --> 02:19:11,659 the big issue here exactly exactly I 2776 02:19:16,859 --> 02:19:13,699 mean you know it really changes how 2777 02:19:20,439 --> 02:19:16,869 people have to view things everything 2778 02:19:24,939 --> 02:19:20,449 everything everything the yeah the 2779 02:19:27,399 --> 02:19:24,949 implications the input of mind boggling 2780 02:19:29,979 --> 02:19:27,409 and I think that that's why people are 2781 02:19:32,139 --> 02:19:29,989 so resistant and that's why they want to 2782 02:19:34,650 --> 02:19:32,149 ignore evidence they were ignored data 2783 02:19:37,650 --> 02:19:34,660 they don't want accept it they were 2784 02:19:41,370 --> 02:19:37,660 keep their old world view they wanna 2785 02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:41,380 keep their old world view and you can't 2786 02:19:47,910 --> 02:19:44,290 do it and be compatible with real 2787 02:19:50,011 --> 02:19:47,920 evidence and let's get let's go back in 2788 02:19:53,131 --> 02:19:50,021 its totality with everything that we 2789 02:19:55,080 --> 02:19:53,141 have discussed tonight when we we talk 2790 02:19:57,990 --> 02:19:55,090 about the mulan project in the 2791 02:20:01,320 --> 02:19:58,000 electromagnetic research and which goes 2792 02:20:02,910 --> 02:20:01,330 right into in my opinion the electric 2793 02:20:06,091 --> 02:20:02,920 universe and i'm glad that you brought 2794 02:20:10,770 --> 02:20:06,101 that up all of this now was starting to 2795 02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:10,780 collide science is is overlapping our 2796 02:20:16,500 --> 02:20:13,690 community so much these days that 2797 02:20:20,120 --> 02:20:16,510 something is gonna break here robert 2798 02:20:23,370 --> 02:20:20,130 something is going to bust wide open 2799 02:20:27,420 --> 02:20:23,380 yeah I think so event I think so I think 2800 02:20:29,190 --> 02:20:27,430 we're going to how do I say this we're 2801 02:20:32,930 --> 02:20:29,200 going through a paradigm change we're 2802 02:20:36,150 --> 02:20:32,940 going through I don't know if you know 2803 02:20:39,780 --> 02:20:36,160 Thomas Kuhn the great physicists 2804 02:20:42,301 --> 02:20:39,790 historian who talked about revolutions 2805 02:20:44,341 --> 02:20:42,311 in science what I think we're saying 2806 02:20:47,011 --> 02:20:44,351 that we're we're just going to have to 2807 02:20:50,551 --> 02:20:47,021 give up the old paradigm and go into a 2808 02:20:52,560 --> 02:20:50,561 new one the when we talk about all of 2809 02:20:55,350 --> 02:20:52,570 this and then we bring in there's 2810 02:20:58,430 --> 02:20:55,360 another there's another key here and I'm 2811 02:21:03,261 --> 02:20:58,440 talking about Edie Phu and what is 2812 02:21:06,240 --> 02:21:03,271 represented there and that story also 2813 02:21:09,480 --> 02:21:06,250 corroborates other historians from the 2814 02:21:17,790 --> 02:21:09,490 past some of the theories of today and 2815 02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:17,800 it brings in the big a word and and I 2816 02:21:23,011 --> 02:21:19,930 will say the a-word now I wouldn't say 2817 02:21:25,080 --> 02:21:23,021 it 30 years ago I suppose why not 2818 02:21:27,720 --> 02:21:25,090 suppose I know I wouldn't say 30 years 2819 02:21:30,270 --> 02:21:27,730 ago out in public because again this was 2820 02:21:32,700 --> 02:21:30,280 something that if you start talking 2821 02:21:36,091 --> 02:21:32,710 about Lantis Atlantis being the a word 2822 02:21:40,170 --> 02:21:36,101 in this context you were dismissed by 2823 02:21:43,860 --> 02:21:40,180 standard academia but to me the concept 2824 02:21:46,470 --> 02:21:43,870 of Atlantis not as a geographic location 2825 02:21:48,900 --> 02:21:46,480 not as a geographic position but the 2826 02:21:52,020 --> 02:21:48,910 concept of Atlantis as a 2827 02:21:56,180 --> 02:21:52,030 as an advanced civilization that goes 2828 02:21:59,520 --> 02:21:56,190 back to the period of about 10,000 BC 2829 02:22:02,940 --> 02:21:59,530 Plato according to Plato's chronology it 2830 02:22:05,341 --> 02:22:02,950 collapsed about 9600 BC which is right 2831 02:22:09,480 --> 02:22:05,351 at the end of the last ice age by modern 2832 02:22:13,830 --> 02:22:09,490 dating it ties in perfectly with what we 2833 02:22:16,410 --> 02:22:13,840 now know from genuine archaeological and 2834 02:22:18,600 --> 02:22:16,420 geological evidence so I think we have 2835 02:22:21,230 --> 02:22:18,610 to relook at that and I don't care if 2836 02:22:23,910 --> 02:22:21,240 you know my son my academic colleagues 2837 02:22:26,790 --> 02:22:23,920 find that crazy that's where the 2838 02:22:29,310 --> 02:22:26,800 evidence is going well and when we talk 2839 02:22:31,470 --> 02:22:29,320 about the possibility of great floods or 2840 02:22:33,480 --> 02:22:31,480 catastrophes and these things around the 2841 02:22:35,610 --> 02:22:33,490 world and everybody has got a flood myth 2842 02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:35,620 every culture doesn't matter where you 2843 02:22:41,430 --> 02:22:38,650 go everybody's got a flood myth story 2844 02:22:43,770 --> 02:22:41,440 and when we back up off of the last ice 2845 02:22:47,011 --> 02:22:43,780 age when everything started to melt and 2846 02:22:48,930 --> 02:22:47,021 sea levels rose there's the the 2847 02:22:51,750 --> 02:22:48,940 possibility of each one of these 2848 02:22:54,720 --> 02:22:51,760 cultures around the world experiencing 2849 02:22:57,511 --> 02:22:54,730 their own flood story and that's where 2850 02:23:02,690 --> 02:22:57,521 it all comes from but yeah with the talk 2851 02:23:06,091 --> 02:23:02,700 of Atlantis predated the Ed foo 2852 02:23:08,940 --> 02:23:06,101 discovery and when you look at those 2853 02:23:10,850 --> 02:23:08,950 texts now you put that in and it's 2854 02:23:13,500 --> 02:23:10,860 another piece of evidence here that 2855 02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:13,510 explains a lot not only the technology 2856 02:23:20,940 --> 02:23:17,290 of Egypt but some of these stories that 2857 02:23:25,280 --> 02:23:20,950 go back around around the world with all 2858 02:23:29,070 --> 02:23:25,290 of these cultures and to me it starts to 2859 02:23:31,440 --> 02:23:29,080 complete the puzzle I think right there 2860 02:23:33,841 --> 02:23:31,450 ed foo and it's ended and is dismissed 2861 02:23:36,270 --> 02:23:33,851 and I don't yeah no no and Ed who is 2862 02:23:39,240 --> 02:23:36,280 incredible it's it's essentially one of 2863 02:23:42,660 --> 02:23:39,250 the places that we go and visit and it's 2864 02:23:44,970 --> 02:23:42,670 a it's essentially a book in stone as 2865 02:23:48,631 --> 02:23:44,980 it's sometimes described all over the 2866 02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:48,641 temple and it talks about this and you 2867 02:23:53,551 --> 02:23:51,370 know again the problem is that so many 2868 02:23:55,980 --> 02:23:53,561 academics Egyptologist they just 2869 02:23:58,890 --> 02:23:55,990 dismissed this as nonsense you know they 2870 02:24:01,170 --> 02:23:58,900 call myth mythology or whatever and they 2871 02:24:02,860 --> 02:24:01,180 just dismiss it but we're finding 2872 02:24:06,880 --> 02:24:02,870 there's a real basis for 2873 02:24:09,730 --> 02:24:06,890 the the evidence I want to close on this 2874 02:24:13,360 --> 02:24:09,740 the evidence when we look at the Great 2875 02:24:15,969 --> 02:24:13,370 Pyramid we can all make jokes that you 2876 02:24:19,360 --> 02:24:15,979 know Khufu Cheops didn't put his name on 2877 02:24:22,440 --> 02:24:19,370 the pyramid but there you know you be 2878 02:24:24,610 --> 02:24:22,450 the greatest monument the greatest 2879 02:24:26,920 --> 02:24:24,620 construction ever in the history of the 2880 02:24:31,540 --> 02:24:26,930 world but you don't put your name on it 2881 02:24:33,940 --> 02:24:31,550 I think yeah little crazy but there's a 2882 02:24:36,219 --> 02:24:33,950 broader he was anonymous he wanted to 2883 02:24:40,030 --> 02:24:36,229 stay and not it's also interesting that 2884 02:24:41,710 --> 02:24:40,040 there's not much in the way of not only 2885 02:24:45,580 --> 02:24:41,720 are there no inscriptions but there's 2886 02:24:48,190 --> 02:24:45,590 not much in the way of direct evidence 2887 02:24:49,780 --> 02:24:48,200 in the sense of statues of him or 2888 02:24:54,010 --> 02:24:49,790 anything else 2889 02:24:56,980 --> 02:24:54,020 the only statuette that we now have is a 2890 02:24:59,230 --> 02:24:56,990 little ivory carving of him which you 2891 02:25:01,630 --> 02:24:59,240 can see at least it was on display in 2892 02:25:03,910 --> 02:25:01,640 the Egyptian Museum tiny little thing 2893 02:25:06,219 --> 02:25:03,920 and that's supposed to represent Khufu 2894 02:25:08,410 --> 02:25:06,229 and it's not even clear that that was 2895 02:25:11,469 --> 02:25:08,420 carved in his lifetime in fact it may 2896 02:25:14,020 --> 02:25:11,479 have been a thousand years later it may 2897 02:25:17,560 --> 02:25:14,030 just be a copy there were repeatedly on 2898 02:25:19,990 --> 02:25:17,570 the sign nice carvings of him on some of 2899 02:25:22,900 --> 02:25:20,000 the walls but they were destroyed but 2900 02:25:23,500 --> 02:25:22,910 you know there's very little it's 2901 02:25:26,770 --> 02:25:23,510 strange 2902 02:25:30,510 --> 02:25:26,780 know it well and I can explain it you 2903 02:25:37,270 --> 02:25:30,520 right okay yep pyramid was built before 2904 02:25:38,620 --> 02:25:37,280 hieroglyphics that's why they were use 2905 02:25:43,540 --> 02:25:38,630 it what they were using something more 2906 02:25:44,940 --> 02:25:43,550 sophisticated computers they need to 2907 02:25:47,980 --> 02:25:44,950 carve into the walls 2908 02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:47,990 yeah I'm joking a little bit about some 2909 02:25:53,860 --> 02:25:50,210 of this but no one maybe it's not a joke 2910 02:25:56,290 --> 02:25:53,870 we don't know I know you know how much 2911 02:25:58,630 --> 02:25:56,300 right now I don't know what the 2912 02:26:02,290 --> 02:25:58,640 percentage is how much is in print in 2913 02:26:06,760 --> 02:26:02,300 the last say five years versus just an 2914 02:26:10,150 --> 02:26:06,770 electronic digital format in cyberspace 2915 02:26:13,210 --> 02:26:10,160 I can't wait in my point I do I do 2916 02:26:16,120 --> 02:26:13,220 how much that doesn't actually exist in 2917 02:26:18,219 --> 02:26:16,130 print it's just 2918 02:26:20,820 --> 02:26:18,229 it's cyberspace it's just on the 2919 02:26:23,979 --> 02:26:20,830 internet and if all that goes down 2920 02:26:25,780 --> 02:26:23,989 they'll be lost well that's one reason 2921 02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:25,790 I'd like to have published books don't 2922 02:26:31,780 --> 02:26:28,010 you know physical see physical paper 2923 02:26:34,660 --> 02:26:31,790 copies stored somewhere but so much you 2924 02:26:36,969 --> 02:26:34,670 know never exists on paper never exists 2925 02:26:40,210 --> 02:26:36,979 physically in our modern day and age 2926 02:26:43,210 --> 02:26:40,220 yeah when you think about it let's if 2927 02:26:47,229 --> 02:26:43,220 you jump ten thousand years into the 2928 02:26:55,179 --> 02:26:47,239 future and somebody from the future 2929 02:26:57,189 --> 02:26:55,189 finds a CD what how are they going to 2930 02:26:59,229 --> 02:26:57,199 figure that out or they're not going to 2931 02:27:02,710 --> 02:26:59,239 figure it out number one in number two 2932 02:27:04,090 --> 02:27:02,720 it'll probably be so degraded that even 2933 02:27:06,250 --> 02:27:04,100 if they figure it out they'll get very 2934 02:27:08,439 --> 02:27:06,260 little information off of it that's 2935 02:27:13,030 --> 02:27:08,449 right and we have the same problems 2936 02:27:17,340 --> 02:27:13,040 today if if they found okay but CD is 2937 02:27:19,840 --> 02:27:17,350 one thing but how about a CD player 2938 02:27:23,320 --> 02:27:19,850 without a CD and they don't have the 2939 02:27:25,380 --> 02:27:23,330 instruction manual right well we have 2940 02:27:28,059 --> 02:27:25,390 the same problems with the Giza Plateau 2941 02:27:31,479 --> 02:27:28,069 we don't have those we don't have the 2942 02:27:33,790 --> 02:27:31,489 instruction man or a CD player or CD how 2943 02:27:37,450 --> 02:27:33,800 about a little thumb drive no bigger 2944 02:27:39,250 --> 02:27:37,460 than your fingernail they would know and 2945 02:27:41,830 --> 02:27:39,260 it could have all of the information of 2946 02:27:44,679 --> 02:27:41,840 our history but they would never know it 2947 02:27:47,559 --> 02:27:44,689 and we have the same problems today with 2948 02:27:49,149 --> 02:27:47,569 with keys in Egypt dr. Schaack thank you 2949 02:27:52,330 --> 02:27:49,159 so much for everything 2950 02:27:57,309 --> 02:27:52,340 what okay you've got the tour coming up 2951 02:28:01,540 --> 02:27:57,319 next year in 2019 what is happen 19 June 2952 02:28:03,309 --> 02:28:01,550 June 20 June 2019 I invite people to 2953 02:28:06,389 --> 02:28:03,319 come see what we've been talking about 2954 02:28:10,149 --> 02:28:06,399 see it in person I mean there's no 2955 02:28:12,729 --> 02:28:10,159 substitute for seeing in person and 2956 02:28:15,340 --> 02:28:12,739 what's left for you in 2018 are you 2957 02:28:17,439 --> 02:28:15,350 speaking any appearances yeah I've got 2958 02:28:19,630 --> 02:28:17,449 some appearances that are coming up 2959 02:28:20,920 --> 02:28:19,640 every month I think September October 2960 02:28:23,700 --> 02:28:20,930 November 2961 02:28:26,530 --> 02:28:23,710 I suggest that people go to my website 2962 02:28:28,630 --> 02:28:26,540 Robert Schoch com 2963 02:28:29,860 --> 02:28:28,640 and for people that don't know how to 2964 02:28:33,880 --> 02:28:29,870 spell my name 2965 02:28:39,100 --> 02:28:33,890 Robert the normal way ro be ERT last 2966 02:28:41,980 --> 02:28:39,110 name SCH och calm thank you so much my 2967 02:28:43,801 --> 02:28:41,990 friend give my best to Katie and thank 2968 02:28:45,820 --> 02:28:43,811 you it's just another wonderful 2969 02:28:48,100 --> 02:28:45,830 conversation here I'm fade to black with 2970 02:28:49,060 --> 02:28:48,110 you it's always great to be on thank you 2971 02:28:51,011 --> 02:28:49,070 so much 2972 02:28:57,100 --> 02:28:51,021 boys enjoy it enjoy the rest of your 2973 02:29:00,900 --> 02:28:57,110 morning I'll talk to you soon thank you 2974 02:29:04,480 --> 02:29:00,910 so much Robert okay thank you Robert M 2975 02:29:07,600 --> 02:29:04,490 shock its Robert Schoch calm and you've 2976 02:29:10,270 --> 02:29:07,610 got to go if if you can you've got to go 2977 02:29:12,310 --> 02:29:10,280 to Egypt with them Robert Schoch calm 2978 02:29:13,810 --> 02:29:12,320 all the information is right there this 2979 02:29:16,600 --> 02:29:13,820 is fade to black on the arrows Jimmy 2980 02:29:22,890 --> 02:29:16,610 Church I'll be right back with open 2981 02:29:39,060 --> 02:29:36,290 [Music] 2982 02:29:41,760 --> 02:29:39,070 come back here and you are listening to 2983 02:29:47,210 --> 02:29:41,770 my boy Jimmy Church Oh Jimmy Church 2984 02:29:51,389 --> 02:29:47,220 radio.com this my popular opinion 2985 02:29:54,330 --> 02:29:51,399 reading a book will not make you smarter 2986 02:29:57,389 --> 02:29:54,340 but listening to Jimmy church will 2987 02:30:01,690 --> 02:29:57,399 [Applause] 2988 02:30:03,550 --> 02:30:01,700 hurricanes earthquakes wildfires this 2989 02:30:06,010 --> 02:30:03,560 year we've experienced more than our 2990 02:30:08,320 --> 02:30:06,020 fair share this is Jimmy Church of fade 2991 02:30:10,330 --> 02:30:08,330 to black and last month I decided to 2992 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02:32:00,971 getting old has its perks but remember 3034 02:32:05,461 --> 02:32:03,460 being a few years younger you know your 3035 02:32:07,320 --> 02:32:05,471 hair was thicker you didn't have so many 3036 02:32:09,301 --> 02:32:07,330 wrinkles that extra weight wasn't 3037 02:32:11,580 --> 02:32:09,311 haunting you and you just felt better 3038 02:32:14,280 --> 02:32:11,590 well we can't turn back the clocks and 3039 02:32:16,440 --> 02:32:14,290 go back 10 or 15 years but you can start 3040 02:32:19,591 --> 02:32:16,450 feeling and looking 10 or 15 years 3041 02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:19,601 younger with nature's youth RSF it's a 3042 02:32:23,280 --> 02:32:21,610 doctor formulated daily supplement that 3043 02:32:25,011 --> 02:32:23,290 helps your body maintain its peak 3044 02:32:27,660 --> 02:32:25,021 performance and fight the aging process 3045 02:32:29,011 --> 02:32:27,670 imagine sleeping better looking better 3046 02:32:31,620 --> 02:32:29,021 and feeling better 3047 02:32:33,570 --> 02:32:31,630 see how nature's youth RSF has helped 3048 02:32:36,270 --> 02:32:33,580 thousands of people just like you at 3049 02:32:38,700 --> 02:32:36,280 nature's youth calm nature's youth calm 3050 02:32:40,140 --> 02:32:38,710 the holidays are coming imagine how it 3051 02:32:42,030 --> 02:32:40,150 will feel when your family and friends 3052 02:32:42,690 --> 02:32:42,040 are asking you what you did to look so 3053 02:32:45,120 --> 02:32:42,700 good 3054 02:32:46,980 --> 02:32:45,130 your secret will be nature's youth RSF 3055 02:32:49,410 --> 02:32:46,990 it's time to start looking better and 3056 02:32:51,810 --> 02:32:49,420 feeling better learn more in order your 3057 02:33:01,581 --> 02:32:51,820 nature's use RSS at nature's youth calm 3058 02:33:16,081 --> 02:33:05,251 it's not a lifestyle we chose we were 3059 02:33:19,020 --> 02:33:16,091 born this way k GRA radio.com this is KJ 3060 02:33:32,180 --> 02:33:19,030 CRA Jimmy shirts radiojohn yeah 3061 02:33:37,690 --> 02:33:35,011 all right welcome back beta-blocker the 3062 02:33:42,060 --> 02:33:40,230 and I have 3063 02:33:44,120 --> 02:33:42,070 lov'st the Internet 3064 02:33:46,519 --> 02:33:44,130 [Music] 3065 02:33:49,880 --> 02:33:46,529 I've got one stage of the internet going 3066 02:33:53,059 --> 02:33:49,890 out I have nothing coming back in so I 3067 02:33:56,840 --> 02:33:53,069 don't have any phones and I don't even 3068 02:33:59,540 --> 02:33:56,850 know if you can hear me right now so 3069 02:34:01,309 --> 02:33:59,550 with that I'm just gonna have to wrap 3070 02:34:04,099 --> 02:34:01,319 the show tonight and I don't want to do 3071 02:34:08,450 --> 02:34:04,109 this I rebooted computers and everything 3072 02:34:11,059 --> 02:34:08,460 during the break and hoping that things 3073 02:34:14,330 --> 02:34:11,069 were gonna fix themselves and they did 3074 02:34:17,450 --> 02:34:14,340 not I am really bummed out about this so 3075 02:34:21,260 --> 02:34:17,460 with that I am just going to wrap the 3076 02:34:23,059 --> 02:34:21,270 show I'm going to try and get right now 3077 02:34:26,240 --> 02:34:23,069 I've got I got nothing 3078 02:34:28,010 --> 02:34:26,250 I don't think so that's it I got to 3079 02:34:31,219 --> 02:34:28,020 thank Robert Schoch for coming in 3080 02:34:34,760 --> 02:34:31,229 tonight absolutely amazing conversation 3081 02:34:38,269 --> 02:34:34,770 and I'm glad that it made it to the end 3082 02:34:40,429 --> 02:34:38,279 so we did get through that but with that 3083 02:34:44,059 --> 02:34:40,439 I'm just going to wrap the show and if 3084 02:34:45,679 --> 02:34:44,069 you can hear me right now but I don't 3085 02:34:49,760 --> 02:34:45,689 want you to be bummed out it's just the 3086 02:34:55,910 --> 02:34:49,770 way that it is so let's go ahead and 3087 02:34:57,889 --> 02:34:55,920 wrap that's right I'm gonna do this was 3088 02:34:59,630 --> 02:34:57,899 an amazing show with Robert Shaw kata 3089 02:35:01,820 --> 02:34:59,640 blights executive producers ritika 3090 02:35:03,800 --> 02:35:01,830 murray on show us produced by Hill J 3091 02:35:05,599 --> 02:35:03,810 Palmer nee Denison Bob announces our 3092 02:35:08,510 --> 02:35:05,609 Steve Hart of gene the Toa Marty 3093 02:35:11,960 --> 02:35:08,520 colbaugh webmaster drew the geek music 3094 02:35:15,019 --> 02:35:11,970 doug aldrich intro space voice space boy 3095 02:35:16,510 --> 02:35:15,029 music comm beta-blockers produced by 3096 02:35:19,420 --> 02:35:16,520 kjsurya 3097 02:35:22,569 --> 02:35:19,430 networked in syndication as kg ra the 3098 02:35:24,010 --> 02:35:22,579 planet broadcast ona copyright a 2018 by 3099 02:35:24,580 --> 02:35:24,020 state of black in the game-changer 3100 02:35:26,830 --> 02:35:24,590 Network 3101 02:35:28,380 --> 02:35:26,840 it cannot be rebroadcast download a copy 3102 02:35:30,910 --> 02:35:28,390 to use anywhere in the known universe 3103 02:35:32,859 --> 02:35:30,920 without written permission from fade to 3104 02:35:35,830 --> 02:35:32,869 black of the game change the network on 3105 02:35:39,550 --> 02:35:35,840 those signatures follow me on Twitter @ 3106 02:35:42,880 --> 02:35:39,560 JT radio tomorrow night right here on 3107 02:35:45,580 --> 02:35:42,890 fade to black Richard bleep in Dolan 3108 02:35:53,850 --> 02:35:45,590 until then everybody be safe